Roll on the 20th June

[sm0ky2]

@ Shakman,

here's the deal...  looking at the "front", meaning the clockwise side - the magnets are in the bottom left, and top right.

looking at the [back of the back side?] like looking a the back, from the front --  the magnets are in the lower left and top right.

TURN the wheel around, and look at the face of the back side - meaning the counterclockwise side - the magnets are in the bottom right, and top left.
likewise, if you were to look at the back of the front side,looking at the front, fom the back- the magnets would be in the bottom right, top left.
  either way they are in the same spot, just spaced apart enough to fit the arms on either side.

in fact, you could make it one wde magnet-set to operate both halves of the wheel. essentially doubling your working force/torque, whatever... using both sides of the wheel. - this would mean mounting it on a long axle at both ends, instead of the 1-sided approach most of us have gone with.

[purepower]

@Exx

Cheers! I think there was some miscommunication at some point, but its all good...

@EVERYONE (VERY IMPORTANT, DONT SKIM)

Seriously, what the hell happened o this forum in the last few pages?

Pre-June 20, there was a bis of mud slinging here and there, a few personal attacks, but there was also substantial scholarly debate. It was fairly evenly mixed, more side spats than I would really like, but enough people talking about the wheel and build ideas to keep it interesting.

Now that the 20th has passed (or is passing, depending on where you live), a shit-ton of newbies crawl out of their shells and have something to say (Archurian and Newtonian).

Seriously, I think I speak for all the incumbents on the forum: If you havent had the balls to say anything up to this point, KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT.

I dont care which side of the debate you are on. You have all plagued this thread with your irrelevant banter. I keep checking up on the site, hoping to read something about Archer's progress or a discovery/idea from someone else, only to read a post by "RandomNobody1" with less than 50 posts talking shit to "RandomNobody2." You are all spineless half wits that only had the confidence to say something once the day was here. But to actually find the courage to speak your mind prior to recent events, you put your tail between your legs and pissed yourself. Now that you are talking, its of no use to anyone and only serves your own ego. Nobody fucking cares. Sit down, shut up, and enjoy the ride as you have been. We got by fine without you, I think we will be alright if you never grace us with your presence again.

Archurians: the deadline is here. Archer has not produced. Guess what? Nobody fucking cares but you (and a few dipshit Newtonians). Any real 'opponent' to your side knew this would be the case to begin with and isn't making a big deal about it. Suck it up, accept the time loss, and lets move on with ideas that didnt originate from Archer. I dont want you to take offense, none is meant. But realize the time has passed and the future of FE is in our hands (as it always has been).

Newtonians: before I begin, understand I am a Newt myself. Having said that SHUT THE FUCK UP. Are we really gaining any ground or credibility saying "ha ha ha, told ya so, Im so smart, Archie's a dummie?" Seriously, what do you think you are doing or accomplishing? Before you say one more fucking word, ask yourself: a) is this really necessary; b) am I saying anything they dont already know; c) am I conducting myself as an educated individual; d) is what Im about to say for the greater good; e) is what Im about to say going to help FE? If you answered "no" to any of those, keep you fingers off the keyboard and on your cock, theyll do much better there...

If anyone something positive or constructive to contribute then do so. Otherwise, your input is not needed. Even as one of the greatest 'opponents' of the device, all of my posts (well, all but 2 or 3) have been for the progression of the device. You dont have to be a cheerleader, and you dont have to stop encouraging Archer either. But please, quit your frivolous dick-waving contests and help the FE community.

-PurePower

[sm0ky2]

@ PP

what we are experiencing is the advancement if archer's popularity. many of these people simply haven't been here the whole time,

what i've seen is that 13+ forums are now interlinked through their archer-wheel threads, from people posting links, that are members of more than 1 forum.

like you've seen in THIS THREAD - at least 2 of them that i remember, possibly more?
look at the member count, its growing out of control. i hope the server can handle the load....
its great to have this many people interested in FE Tech.,  if a smal group of us can accomplish spetacular things, imagine what a group of thousands could do.

wether or not you agree with the crap someone spouts out on a public forum is irrelevant. you dont have to bitch about them posting...  other people often disagree with things you YOU or I post, but in case you haven't noticed, its usually addressed on the level of discussion that fits it, they're not out here telling YOU not to post here....

i welcome everyone's opinion, Old timers, or new people alike.  You should take a step back and see what people have to say.  Even if you dont feel its "correct", their perspective may shed light on something you mave have overlooked. anyone on this earth can learn something from anyone else.
regardless of how much you know, or think you know. 

[shakman]

Now that the 20th has passed (or is passing, depending on where you live), a shit-ton of newbies crawl out of their shells and have something to say (Archurian and Newtonian).

Seriously, I think I speak for all the incumbents on the forum: If you havent had the balls to say anything up to this point, KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT.

@purepower

That was well said, but in saying that...

Yep, I'm a "Newbie", so I will assume you are including me in this little swipe.

You are well within your rights to say that seeing as you've been an active member of the forum so long, and I agree - too much niggling - but I hadn't even logged on to this forum for probably close to a year up until a few days ago - mainly because I have a hectic job and don't have time. There would be others like me who hadn't been here in a while, or maybe just joined, purely because they were following Archer's work and landed themselves here.

Assuming people have sat quietly lurking on the forum only to pipe up now isn't exactly fair. I think your attack should not be aimed at when people started posting but what people have been posting. I could carry on and be macho and use cuss words but I don't normally need to resort them to sort out my issues with people in real life and I don't intend to resort to it now.

What's wrong with people playing around with this idea if they want to? It seems to be what happens with most other ideas on this forum. This thread has admittedly disintegrated into a shit-fight, but if the people who aren't here to offer any real assistance or support or share ideas (and I'm not saying this is particularly you, purepower, as I think you could provide us with some constructive feedback) leave those who are interested to discuss this topic, newbie or not, then we wouldn't have this scenario. I have admittedly strayed off the path here and there, more for entertainment value than anything, but if you review my posts they have been primarily about sharing ideas and getting opinions on different design concepts.

Call me an Archurian if you will, I don't put myself in any particular camp. I consider myself a free-thinker. I might be wrong but I thought that's what this forum was all about.

[EvilToeKnee]

C'mon purepower. You have to admit the condom/pesticide thing was funny.  I know it's counter productive but, we ALL need a sense of humor.  Especially when dealing with "taboo" things like FE.  Believe me, I think what you've written is great.  You really couldn't ask for more depth and detail.  What it really boils down to (I think), when someone trys something like we see here, we need people like you do challange it.  I makes it more important to reach the goal or prove it so.  Anyway, that's all I have to ramble about at the moment. Admit it, it made you chuckle......

EvilToeKnee