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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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MrKai

Quote from: Bobbotov on June 21, 2008, 10:20:21 AM
If oil wells do not dry up why would ANWAR and off shore drilling be a last ditch consideration by the US to acquire new deposits? I mean up until the 1970's the US was drilling for oil in the continental states and did not rely on foreign oil. But those wells dried up as predicted they would by M. King Hubbert (who also predicted global Peak Oil). I live in Texas and there are many depleted fields both here and Oklahoma. They will never be sources of oil abiotic or otherwise.

And this abiotic concept is lacking in many respects. First, if oil is replenished from the Earth then show me the chemical formula for how that is done and show me the time it takes to make such oil. No calculations exist that have any bearing on reality. And besides, let's say that the Earth produces oil all the time. If it takes ten million years to produce one barrel do the math and see how long it will take to deplete what has already been made before we out pace the Earth's ability to reproduce it. Even if it takes only a thousand years we are screwed. And why aren't old wells being re-drilled if they are filling back up?

Bob...calm down, man :)

Look at what you did there...you reached the logical conclusion that it doesn't matter at this point or rate if oil supplies are replenishing because you have to wait for that to happen. However, you also seem think that knowing what it is is nutty...but I *think* I follow your pre-emptive defensiveness.

You don't have to be defensive; it is certainly plausible that the "bio signature" of fuel is due to bacteria picked up in the process and a false correlation made; it wouldn't be the first time this has happened :)

It just doesn't *matter* due to the super high consumption amounts, anyway.

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petersone

Hi K
$6 a gallon,painful!! try it here,UK,nearly $12 a gallon!! it's bloody excruciating.
happy hunting.
peter

MrKai

Quote from: petersone on June 21, 2008, 10:46:59 AM
Hi K
$6 a gallon,painful!! try it here,UK,nearly $12 a gallon!! it's bloody excruciating.
happy hunting.
peter

The thing is, there and other parts of Europe are, for want of a better word, "made" to be able to deal with such a price.

The Oo-sa* is HUGE man. There are many places here without sidewalks if you can imagine that...and everything is spread way, way out.

This country's economy pretty much runs on dollar hegemony and cheap fuel and without it we are completely and utterly FINDA** here.

Or to put it another way: the masses and "sheeple" might fear Islamic Fundamentalist wackos...but those that know better are far more afraid of the petroeuro ;)


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sigmaX

Bobbotov,

I talk out of ignorance, but I can imagine that the process involved creating oil happens ver down towards the centre of our beloved earth, and only SOME of the actual oil sites are replenished, because the "natural oil factory" is having access to them.

The more "over the surface" ones, probably got filled up very early, when the geological terra-forming (sorry my english is poor, particularly in technical terms, so I hope I convey the right idea) process was at full speed, and "petroleoum chimeneys where reaching up into the surface.

Yo also have the following questions, that might help the abiotic petroleum concept:

1) WHere are all those emptied caves ? I started to think about it when one of you said it!!! Even holywood, which grasps the weirdest concepts just to make a movie,  never grasped the "EMPTY PETROLEUM CAVE" concept.

Our earth is full of INCONCEIVABLY BIG HOLES everywhere. Which also were under pressure before being drilled. THat is, I assume that we see the classical PETROLEUM FOUNTAIN in every movie where the lucky guy discovers it in its backyard.

EVEN if it is filled with water, which I assume is far less dense than petroleum, the pressure wont be there. Wouldnt the caves collapse ?

Are they being secretly used for elite underground cities or whatever ?

uhmmm Such a fantastic concept never been used by holywood? it sounds like a silenced concept.

Also, I think that math itself can show that we have been using LOTS of dinosaurs yogurht ... more than can actually be fitted over our earth.

ALSO:

My country DOES NOT HAVE PETROLEUM. BUT BUT BUT there is a famous topic in here... over Piriapolis (I live in Uruguay, South America) there is a place, a rock formation (small mountain, 100 or so meters high), where something sticky petroleum like, flows out of different points.

IT has been a recurring press topic that such thing "could be petroleum". There even has been some stirring about it.

but geologically speaking, it was colliding with the "dinosaur concept" so it was always turned down.

Sigma.

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Another day, another helping of Special K.

Did you happen to find those requests?

Just curious since they were the point of last contention.

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