Roll on the 20th June

[MrKai]

Another day, another helping of Special K.

Did you happen to find those requests?

Just curious since they were the point of last contention.

(Damn, more crickets!)

I posted a link to every post I've ever made awhile ago, exx, and anyone can click on my name to see them.

I hope this post demonstrates to everyone that you simply keep trying to pick fights with me. Again, I respectfully ask you to stop calling me names.

Time to move on and find another diversion.

Thanks,

-K

[exxcomm0n]

I posted a link to every post I've ever made awhile ago, exx, and anyone can click on my name to see them.

I hope this post demonstrates to everyone that you simply keep trying to pick fights with me. Again, I respectfully ask you to stop calling me names.

Time to move on and find another diversion.

Thanks,

-K

Yah, and since you had the problem, you can hunt up the posts.

But your last statement is a cause for jubilation!

No, I just will not let the accusation from you that I am a disingenuous liar go unchallenged.

EDIT
If I don't, i prove you right.

Your claim, your burden of proof.

Why should I hold you to any less of a standard than you held Quinn or anyone else?

C'mon boy, let's see 'em.

[MrKai]

Look. This needs to end.

I made a statement that as humans, we do NOT have do do things that have been proven. It is reasonable to use history, math and science to make certain assumptions.

Your retort was to the contrary.

I gave a clear example of how prior knowledge is used to make reasonable assumptions about physical behaviors and their results. My example was clear; it was firing a loaded gun into your own face.

The results of this action are known by sentient humans to have a fairly predictable and nasty result, so much so that no one capable of debating on an internet forum is going to say, and be honest and genuine about it that yes, I'd have to pull the trigger to be reasonably sure that the results would be unpleasant, at minimum.

Touch?. Movin' on.

However...I don't know if it is your maturity levels, testosterone or just the fact that it is pretty much a "backed into the corner damned if I do/don't" scenario...but you took the low road on that one, man.

You did. You actually tried to float an argument for shooting oneself in the face

Come on now.

That is disingenuous, and since I strongly believe that you don't/didn't sincerely believe that argument, but instead wished for a pissing match, in my opinion, that makes you a liar.

However, I shall now reconsider my position. On the off chance that you actually believed your BS rebuttal, this technically would not make you a liar. It would make you an idiot.

The problem with THAT rational is that you have proven that you are not an idiot...so, I can't resolve that.

That's where it all stems from. Instead of manning up and acknowledging the position as humans, we are blessed and gifted with prior knowledge and reason and can use these tools to not repeat stupid mistakes, you instead tried to sell a case for someone that isn't stone stupid intentionally firing a loading gun at their own face...as acknowledging the point of discussion at the time would have been a "loss"...one that wasn't worthy of handing over to "the enemy".

That's it. That's all there is. That is a definitive disingenuous act...and could only not be construed as a lie if the person responsibe for said act was a complete and total idiot...which you, as I stated before, have proven that you aren't.

Its all here man.

Now, Again, I respectfully ask that you stop calling me "Special K"...as it is demonstrated that I am neither a breakfast cereal, nor mentally challenged or deficient as the colloquial moniker "Special" implies in the epitath manner in which you are using it.

It is over. A new day has come. Stop trying to pick fights with me and rehashing this issue or I shall be forced to report you to the moderators for harassment.

Thanks,

-K

[Bobbotov]

Bob...calm down, man

Look at what you did there...you reached the logical conclusion that it doesn't matter at this point or rate if oil supplies are replenishing because you have to wait for that to happen. However, you also seem think that knowing what it is is nutty...but I *think* I follow your pre-emptive defensiveness.

You don't have to be defensive; it is certainly plausible that the "bio signature" of fuel is due to bacteria picked up in the process and a false correlation made; it wouldn't be the first time this has happened

It just doesn't *matter* due to the super high consumption amounts, anyway.

-K

Not sure how you construed my post as being done from such excitability or defensiveness that I need to calm down. Seemed pretty easy going to me. I didn't rant or curse. Such a touchy crowd here. But having spent the last three or four years on www.peakoil.com it is not surprising. I don't think abiotic oil is nutty just desperate and wrong. And if we approach the oil crisis based on desperation or false hope then the solution will remain out of our grasp as the inexorable slide to depleting a finite resource continues unabated.

In any case, the super high consumption is a deal killer regardless. There are no real signs of oil requirements diminishing except through conservation and better efficiencies whther new oil deposits are found or not.

There was a chance after the oil crisis of the 70's to really address the problem and it was squandered. A loss of forty years on a  problem that is not going away and will take many decades to solve. And if the oil crisis brings the world to a global catastrophe that causes death and destruction on a mega level, that wipes out all of civilization's advances and a good portion of its population in the process  what is there to get excited about, really?

[nightlife]

sigmaX, oil can be produced from Algae. We can grow enough Algae to produce all our oil needs. We can also produce Ethanol from crop waste as well as we can grow enough crops to use to produce all of our gasoline needs. The only reason we don't is because big money owns us. Oil and Ethanol can be produced for less then $1 per gallon but yet we pay over $4 per gallon and what we pay for now cost the makers less then $.25 per gallon. That?s what I call "big money greed"
Automobiles can be ran off 100% Ethanol, not just E85 and there are only a couple changes we need to make for them to do so. Big money again has kept this from being a reality.
The same can be said about other energy producing ways as well as the way energy is used and or utilized. This is why we must use open source as a way for our idea's and designs to be made public for all to have a chance to build them for ourselves so that we can stop being so dependant on the energy that big money controls.

For everyone else. Sorry to get off topic here but I feel this message needs to be instilled in all our heads so that people will stop putting people down for their ideas and or designs. We should welcome and support all ideas regardless if they work or not. Others ideas can possibly inspire others to come up with some that may work. We are all here for the same reason and I for one want to thank all for there contributions.
Calling each other names and belittling each other does nothing but prolong what we are here for. Please keep that in mind the next time you disagree with another member here. And by all means, PLEASE STOP THE PROFANITY. Some of us have children that read these threads.