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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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chap

@all interested,
It might have been a Cheetah drive.
Anyways, You'll need some really small tools to take the drives apart. Like Torx T-8 or T-9, depending on the drive. Some really old Compaq's used 0 size Phillips, and really small Allen heads also.

@exx,
I'm sure it was half-height and I think it was 68-pin, hope that helps, These baby's will hold a 20 pound sledge with no problem. Just don't let them slam together or against anything hard enough to chip the nickel plating off. Once that happens, they start to lose their strength.

Chap

Rusty_Springs

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on June 25, 2008, 06:43:25 AM
@rusty

sorry i should have been more specific, i mean mag trains using what you call the trigate effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylOkg3U-izY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-fnlmzjsYQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qKylABpx0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rs2IK4pmbY&feature=related


Hi Archer
I looked at two of those videos the first and the last, one was a smot and the other was smot like but using magnets, both are not gates but runners because they do not attract in or repel out or both.
The Trigate is different to a runner in that it attracts in and repels out, with the runner you still have the problem of ever going into the system or leaving it, with the Trigate that problem is gone, you can come into and leave the system .
The Trigate would work with your system if it was designed to push up or attract in at the top but its not design to do that its design to push and pull to the side.
Take Care Archer
Graham

PS I looked at the other two videos and the second shows how hard it is to make magnets leave a system ,using the same setup of magnets connected in a row but using the Trigate you will see the roller kick out at the end, thats the difference between a runner and a gate.

Rusty_Springs

Quote from: sm0ky2 on June 25, 2008, 02:05:28 PM
@ GWhy, how are you measuring this "force" on your graphs? 
a properly assembled Tri-Force Gate does NOT HAVE an attraction at the end of the gate, it has a REPULSION! that kicks the roller OUT. You dont lose anything leaving the gate - you  GET BACK almost what you put in, to enter the gate.

If your gate does ANYTHING other than this, then it's not correctly assembled. 

There IS a repulsion at the entrance, which from hundreds of repeated tests, in various configurations - is estimated to be equal to the repulsion at the gate exit + the losses within the gate-array. (though there are a few anamolous configurations, where the exit energy is enough to enter another identicle gate array.)
A single gate array, appears to be balanced both IN and Through + Out.

I'm curious as to what exactly your graph is showing.... is that force in the horizontal plane? In one direction?

How are you measuring this? do you have a way to determine the verticle force vector?   
The reason i ask, is because that doesnt look like many previous measurements of Graham's gates, that several people have done.



Hi Sm0ky2
I was thinking the same thing. I thought maybe he has his setup going slightly up hill which would give you the attract back after leaving, this is because it kicks out the it doesn't have enough energy to go up the hill so it rolls back untill it stops just at the gate were the repel holds it up.
Yes the Trigate needs something to stop the slight repel comming in but there is no douting its kick going out is enough to break any attract back if on a level or slightly down hill surface.
Take Care Sm0ky2
Graham

Rusty_Springs

Quote from: CLaNZeR on June 25, 2008, 03:30:42 PM
19 videos on the Tri-gate in linear fashion. Got to update the site with the wheel videos, they were posted on YouTube but no longer there

http://www.overunity.org.uk/triforcegate.html

Tri-Force is great and respect to Rusty.

The only thing it lacks in my opinion is Torque when needed.

Cheers

Sean.


Hi Sean
Glad to see your videos up again, your video of the Trigate from start to finish is the best there has been.
Take Care Sean
Graham

CLaNZeR

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on June 25, 2008, 05:16:48 PM
Hi Sean
Glad to see your videos up again, your video of the Trigate from start to finish is the best there has been.
Take Care Sean
Graham

Just found the final 4 Rotor ones as well for anyone interested. Will link to them on same page when I get a minute

http://www.overunity.org.uk/tri-gate/CLaNZeRSTri-ForceGate-Rotor1.wmv

http://www.overunity.org.uk/tri-gate/CLaNZeRSTri-ForceGate-Rotor2.wmv

http://www.overunity.org.uk/tri-gate/CLaNZeRSTri-ForceGate-Rotor3.wmv

http://www.overunity.org.uk/tri-gate/CLaNZeRSTri-ForceGate-Rotor4.wmv

Cheers

Sean.
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