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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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exxcomm0n

Quote from: shakman on July 01, 2008, 03:07:17 PM
I bet Helmut's english is better than Bobbotov's german.
<snip>

Ditto. ;)

The thing I find curious is that 2 people answered him. 1 he ignored (can't say that i blame him), and 1 he questioned the motives of using the exact criteria the other poster (me) furnished.

Kinda lets you know where the focus lies.

:D

EDIT

BTW......I think the use of "fray" is telling as well. ;)
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

Bobbotov

Quote from: shakman on July 01, 2008, 03:07:17 PM
I bet Helmut's english is better than Bobbotov's german.

Anyway, if the wheel works and Archer gives it as a gift to the world what's wrong with him sharing it with those who have supported him in his efforts first? It makes perfect sense to me. I'm not saying that is his plan, I can't speak for Archer, but if that's what he decides to do then I can't see how he could be criticized for it. At least that way his supporters will be able to verify that it works (or not) before the vultures move in to write him off and label his videos as fakes, as I imagine several people are already lining up to do. You must also remember that Archer wouldn't have expected to be attacked as he has been when he "started this whole thing" so he may not be so willing to immediately share his discoveries with everyone as he originally set out to do.

I'll bet my Japanese is better than yours too, so what? Wakarimashita ookii chimpo?

And it is not a matter of faking videos it is a matter of him doing what he said he would do which is to provide step by step plans so anyone could make this to fight off the Evil Oil Empire. If he does that then anyone could reproduce the effect and no one can criticize if it works regardless of videos. And your assessment doesn't jibe with the fact that Archer is still putting videos up so he still gives the illusion of telling all.

helmut

Quote from: Bobbotov on July 01, 2008, 02:42:12 PM
Ah, that's bullshit (not to mention bad spelling). He started this whole thing based on the fact of giving it to the world in an open manner.

@Bobbotov
Sorry vor my lousy english.
I hope, that the meaning of my post comes to you in a way, that you understand what i liked to express.
Otherwhise i am shure, that you are intelligent enough to interpret
my bad spelling in a way, that it is understandable to you.
I am simple mindet only. Please appologise some mistakes i do. I am just not perfect.

As you read my post,you may have notest, that i did  not  make any statement.
And shurely i am not his press speaker.

I just had some thoughts. That it might hurt him, to give his findings, strait in the hands of that kind of people,
that use  to throw any stone in his way, call him a froud,  blame him to succ the money out of his believers
( called cheerleaders ) Pocket.
He is shurely not a armchair researcher and he shares with us.
Thats  reason enough to me,  to pay him another time some support.

helmut



Bobbotov

Helmut, no problem.

Archer has moved the goalposts several times already and all I am saying is that he needs to live up to the claims he started with. That would be the honest approach. I am sure we can speculate on many things but Archer has made one thing eminently clear: he has done this before and he promised to share with the world and at a fixed date.  He could have had all the time in the world except he gave a date of June 20 which has already expired. No one forced him to make the claim or set the date. In fact no one has set any stipulations. Archer has  done it all to himself. But it is not uncommon for people to start to wonder when someone who comes across as being so self assured cannot do as they say. We can all be apologists for Archer but for what purpose I have no idea. I personally have no expectations beyond what he said he would do.

Newtonian God

Quote from: exxcomm0n on June 30, 2008, 09:22:25 PM
1.) Design changes happen in a "new" design. Remember, the old one was electromags.
You never get into building something and have an idea?

Yes, people build things and have new ideas during construction...so what's your point? You seem willing to drink the kool-aid and overlook the most important fact. Archer's "old" design supposedly worked! The "new" design does not. It failed and it continues to fail.

Again, I will cut Archer some slack when he comes clean and tells us the truth, but from what I am seeing he is no closer to telling the truth than he is to perpetual motion. Now he is taking donations just like the other liars and scammers!

What's even more puzzling to me is the excitement that Archer shows in his videos when he sees what he perceives as inkling of overunity. (Oooh did you see it accelerating as it exits the gate?) It seems like an odd reaction from someone that has already built a working perpetual motion machine once before. Wouldn't you agree?