Roll on the 20th June

[ramset]

newt you are still a great inspiration [I love you man ....sniff]   the BOSS does to im sure  Chet

[Newtonian God]

I dont really want to get into all this bickering about who said what and when, but I dont every recall archer saying he built a perpetual motion machine before, if he did then can you please show me where this was said. I always thought he said he built a machine that worked with electromagnets but was NOT OU..

Archer posted this claim on his website but I am pretty sure that it has been removed. It's Archer's claim that he had already done it that attracted all the attention that he is getting here. He also mentions it in the Free Energy Truth interview. There is a link to the interview in the very first post of this thread.
Here it is: http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2008/04/free-energy-on-june-20th-fe-truth-world.html

I would highly recommend that all of Archer's supporters take the time to read the interview again to refresh their memories of how this thread got started.


Here is an excerpt from the interview:

FE Truth: Do you claim to break any laws of physics with this device?

Archer: Laws of physics? No, Newton's "laws" yes.


FE Truth: One of the best things you've done is not asked for any money or investment in this, so right away you've separated yourself from a lot of suspicion over fraud. What do you say to the remaining sceptics who will no doubt be saying you don't have free energy?

Archer: Solar is free energy, we do not doubt the sun?, wind is free energy, we do not doubt the wind, gravity is, of all three the only constant free energy, does the sceptic doubt gravity?

"If you patent any free energy device, you replace one tyrant scumbag with another. " - Archer Quinn


FE Truth: What's your engineering / technical background? How did you get into all this?

Archer: I was born with a unique ability to solve puzzles, especially physics or engineering puzzles, I left home and school when I was 13, yet have held around 10 management positions, the last of which was in electrical and mechanical engineering, so I guess the proof is in those facts, for without the paper one has to prove one's self far beyond that of scholastic paper.


FE Truth: Does the device have a name or model number?

Archer: I guess if there is a god, to give a person the ability to end global warming and destroy the filth that control the planet in one single move, would be somewhat of a miracle so I nicknamed it the "Sword of God", though spare me any religious rhetoric, I simply believe it a little unusual that I have never found anything I can't do, and almost every step I take refers at some point to something I have done or learned in the past. So I think taking the credit personally may be a bit of a stretch.


FE Truth: Is this something you stumbled upon or did you "go after" free energy as an objective from the start?

Archer: I can usually build a better mouse trap (any device) given 10 mins to 24 hours tops, no matter what it is. Free energy devices? I built the first petrochemical free fuelled car over 25 years ago, by building a better mousetrap of a version that almost worked, however to release it would have every tree on the planet gone in a matter of months so I had to let it go, but that was my first. The cost of LPG rising faster than petrol, specifically after going with LPG vehicle at a higher cost just pissed me off way too much.

FE Truth: Will anyone get an advanced preview of the machine?

Archer: There will be disks sent out with video and full instruction the day before to several groups in the event the site is shut down, but as of the 20th of June it will be available for viewing by anyone.


FE Truth: How many working prototypes currently exist?

Archer: The first one I destroyed (the 12 volt one) Toys do not impress me, nor do they impress the public looking for something that can be used straight away, not some fairy story of down the track. There are several sets of plans with friends, and some with people who don't even know they have them, but this will be the only working one as of that date, and once you read and see the full build, you will note that any basic welder or mechanic or good handyman can reproduce the effect.

"I intend to cleanse this planet of this filth and end global warming all in one day and one single action." -Archer Quinn

[sm0ky2]

I think you have it backwards sm0ky, it's Archer's supporters that are getting emotional. I am simply looking for the truth. You guys want to keep shooting the messenger and avoid the truth.

You say that it's "rediculous" to call him a liar? So I guess this means that he was telling us the truth when he said that he had already built a working perpetual motion machine two years ago? Okay, so where is it? What is there to figure out? Why all the endless tinkering? Why the big Archer Quinn show? Just rebuild it and show the world. What would it take, perhaps a days work to rebuild such a simple machine, right? Maybe $100 in parts? Why all the need to raise funds? Why start building a giant pendulum right in the middle of showing the world?

Yes, you're right, there is a need for psychiatric help here. Where do I donate my roll of aluminum foil?

How about instead of attacking the skeptics, ask your hero to answer some of these questions?

First off, i dont see any archer "supporters" getting emotional about this ordeal.

It's not mine to decide wether or not he really had a working wheel 2 yrs ago. he SAYS he did,. but in either case, the device no longer exists, so i cannot prove one way or another.
There is no grounds to say "he didnt have one".  the evidence shows that he HAS worked on something SIMILAR to this, based on his knowledge of the device BEFORE he constructed it.

again, wether or not it actually worked, is unknown..

The point is, he is building one RIGHT NOW.  There is nothing bad to say about that......

He's not a "hero" until he presents a working device. 

[purepower]

Hi Newt,
I dont really want to get into all this bickering about who said what and when, but I dont every recall archer saying he built a perpetual motion machine before, if he did then can you please show me where this was said. I always thought he said he built a machine that worked with electromagnets but was NOT OU..

Wow, wait a second...

You mean to tell me AQ never claimed to build an OU wheel in the past?

And he never finished the lever.

So what has he accomplished?

Why do people put so much faith in him?

Why does everyone think AQ has a better chance at OU than you, me, themselves, or anyone?

I'm not trying to be a skeptic, but shouldnt this be something important to considder?

-PurePower

[OU-812]

First off, i dont see any archer "supporters" getting emotional about this ordeal.

It's not mine to decide wether or not he really had a working wheel 2 yrs ago. he SAYS he did,. but in either case, the device no longer exists, so i cannot prove one way or another.
There is no grounds to say "he didnt have one".  the evidence shows that he HAS worked on something SIMILAR to this, based on his knowledge of the device BEFORE he constructed it.

again, wether or not it actually worked, is unknown..

The point is, he is building one RIGHT NOW.  There is nothing bad to say about that......

He's not a "hero" until he presents a working device. 

Yes yes yes!  He is great man and has given the world such great things (and so much more to come).  We MUST continue to give him money to finish this build!

Do YOU want to be the one who keeps the world from being a better place because YOU didn't contribute to his build??  No!

And when the build stalls for lack of funds next week or the next we all MUST contribute more.  And then when it is almost done, but not quite, we all MUST contribute even more!!

Come one world!!