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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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RadiantLarry

QuoteUnless you have a significant other, it's kinda hard for you to appreciate the load that being out of work for 2+ months AND putting on a continuous circus show for internet kids (Gimme, gimme, GIMME!) can put on a relationship.

That she hasn't killed him in his sleep by now is kinda surprising.

The one constant that Archer has preached is DIY, yet here we are (well, some of us) whining that the gift we got needs assembly.

Horseshit. Now its a DIY project huh. Is that why you two took the reins and said I GOT ONE! THIS IS MINE! GIMME MONEY!!!! Yah right.

Its one thing to take money from gullible people. But then when the fraud is obvious blame everyone and everything else, thats too much. You are full of it, and YOU know it.
My bet is that they will DISAPPEAR like magnacoaster and xpensif, and all the other scams.
Anyone can go back and read the posts, and see how they have beaten people senseless with their PROOF. Or lack of proof. Talk about attacking from a weak position! You dont even have a working theory! People come on!! Bedini at least has a working machine, and his are FREE!
If you want to do free energy research, then SPEND YOUR OWN TIME AND MONEY, and then WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING, AND ONLY THEN, SHOW IT TO PEOPLE!!!!!!
Dont show up with a crackpot theory, bashing everyone with hate, and then when it doesnt work, try and pour other peoples money into it, then BASH THEM for YOUR FAILURE!!
What a joke. What we should have sent was a list of blood banks in your area where you could give blood and make a few bucks to continue your work. I think if you were hungrier you wouldnt be screwing with people like this. No need to reply, as you say so often. 













ramset

Radiant I like  Archer  I have learned a lot from him  and this thread    I believe he bit off a big piece on a small budget    and if I want to contribute to his research its not your concern   I see NOTHING wrong with this approach   getting money in this venue is very hard  and this MAN has his heart in the right place  and has sacrificed a great deal your bile will not change that   so until you hear people that actually contributed complaining mind your own business not other peoples business   Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

exxcomm0n

Quote from: purepower on July 08, 2008, 01:05:29 PM
<snip>
I think you will get back your 9,500 viewers back if you produce what you claim in one whole device, not just piece by piece and telling us to fuck off and figure it out...

If you had tried for months to explain something to someone and the end result was still "Huh?", I bet you'd start getting testy about it too.
In fact, with your arguments about the fulcrum (the siphon was NOT Archers addition, but mine), didn't you do that exact same thing man?

Quote from: purepower on July 08, 2008, 01:05:29 PM
And to see vertical lift from a magnet: take two, one on the table and one in your hand. Move the one in your hand over the one on the table and WHAMO! Vertical lift and loads of free energy! Not what you were looking for? Oh, sorry...

Bud, not a fair comparison.
When you build a "gate", the neat thing is not the attraction (you expect that, don't you? I mean, they ARE magnets and not just little pieces of metal), but the ability to travel from attraction magnet to next attraction magnet and not sticking to any of them, let alone the 1st one.
This is what makes tri-gate vids so appealing.

Quote from: purepower on July 08, 2008, 01:05:29 PM
What happened to the wheel? I thought all the power was coming from gravity, but now there is loads more from magnets? Am I missing something? Is this another wild tangent like the lever and the siphon? Can we please have one whole FE machine instead of four halves?..

Dude, at what point in time did the idea of the electromagnet the 1st "working model" had (in quotation to appease the Newt, Morg, Que, etc.) share all the same exact qualities of a permanent mag?

How do you switch a perm on and off?

It's the difference between a temporary field or barrier vs. a constant field.

A door is a temporary field, a wall is a constant one.
With the aid of mechanics I can go through one of them easily. The other I need MUCH more energy to get through, and don't really finish the process without alteration.

As for wild tangent, if you call a teaching aid (no matter if it was a successful one or not) a tangent, then labs are not necessary in program (engineering) like yours?

I'll say it again.

Archer FAILED adapting a "proven" concept to a new material, like trying to substitute mercury with iron. Both metals, but with vastly different turgidity.

I can't make a lever with mercury.
I can't flow iron to make an electrical connection with iron at room temp (but I AM curious about irons electrical and magnetic properties while molten now).

Thing is, he didn't dry up and blow away, but had the self respect to come back and say that the adaptation failed, but he still believed the concept (which this has ALWAYS been. If it weren't we'd be watching coil winding for electromags instead of gate runs) could work.

Again, the siphon was MY idea (and completely untested! Mere fantasy if you will, to appease the peanut gallery. I think that still has merit too,but I need to experiment a LOT more.)!
That's why I posted 2 versions of graphics and explanations and labeled one as MY interpretation, and one as Archers.

Quote from: purepower on July 08, 2008, 01:05:29 PM
@Exx

Poeple will always complain about DIY. Just think of Ikea furniture. It comes precut, predrilled, hardware and tools included. And there is a working model right in front of you! But people still complain. So its only reasonable to expect complaints when trying to build something that the creator hasn't even done yet with the only direction coming from rants and tube clips...

Too true, i got's ta give you that! ;)

But if the engineer that designed that "furniture" (I hate Ikea and Sauder for taking good designs and predisposing them to failure due to crap materials, or cutting amounts used [smaller supports] for a better sale price) was standing next to the consumer ranting "It's too hard. That'll never be a bookcase!", don't you think he would consider the consumer a waste of space even though the consumer ultimately pays his salary?

Again man, you're almost there and your animosity level is almost nil and in that I congratulate you. But not all your arguments are quite there yet.
(Some of my comments to "you" are not to you only. In fact, you might be amongst the least infringers of practice. :D )

Keep posting though, for the same reasons I've always encouraged you to, even though our opinions are usually at odds.
Let's keep trying to "teach" each other.

:D


Quote from: RadiantLarry on July 08, 2008, 01:30:41 PM
Horseshit. Now its a DIY project huh. Is that why you two took the reins and said I GOT ONE! THIS IS MINE! GIMME MONEY!!!! Yah right.

You two?

I didn't ask anyone for money of any type (but since you have such a keen grasp of numbers as evidenced above, maybe I won't hold you to an evidential standard out of pity).

I never have claimed to have a working device. Archer claimed he HAD a working device and was giving its design away to negate that very instance (THIS IS MINE! GIMME MONEY!) you exemplify above.

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A DIY PROJECT!

If it weren't, why not just build them and sell them?

You drive a car.
Explain to me how the vacuum of the intake has anything to do with the heating/cooling controls.
Explain how the catalytic converter burns residual unburned gasoline (Why humanity didn't sit up and bitch slap the automotive industry about this I'll never know. Build a better engine to completely combust gasoline instead of a band-aid to cover up the inefficient engineering!).
Explain the function of a keeper spring on disc brakes.

Cars are a salable commodity, but there are still those madmen out there that understand all the above things and bend their function to new uses or get rid of them altogether and still have a motive vehicle.

That is the difference between DIY and sale item.

Quote from: RadiantLarry on July 08, 2008, 01:30:41 PM
Its one thing to take money from gullible people. But then when the fraud is obvious blame everyone and everything else, thats too much. You are full of it, and YOU know it.
My bet is that they will DISAPPEAR like magnacoaster and xpensif, and all the other scams.
Anyone can go back and read the posts, and see how they have beaten people senseless with their PROOF. Or lack of proof. Talk about attacking from a weak position! You dont even have a working theory! People come on!! Bedini at least has a working machine, and his are FREE!
If you want to do free energy research, then SPEND YOUR OWN TIME AND MONEY, and then WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING, AND ONLY THEN, SHOW IT TO PEOPLE!!!!!!
Dont show up with a crackpot theory, bashing everyone with hate, and then when it doesnt work, try and pour other peoples money into it, then BASH THEM for YOUR FAILURE!!
What a joke. What we should have sent was a list of blood banks in your area where you could give blood and make a few bucks to continue your work. I think if you were hungrier you wouldnt be screwing with people like this. No need to reply, as you say so often. 

Oh no...this one is mine (since I'm one of the "2" mentioned above).

I did some research (ya know, so I wouldn't be talking out of my ass ;) ) on your post history.

Seems you like to bash gravity related ideas (Roll & Lee Tseung threads), and that is your right, but I have yet to see you talking about any experimentation you did to prove or disprove something.
Or  a newly born and naked idea.

In fact, seems that the only reason you came here was to follow/heckle wilbyinhebriated and spent @ least 3 posts doing that and that only.

I have to feel sad for such a spiteful little boy, but it does at least let me know what sort of thought (or lack thereof) you're capable.

It STILL can be a scam until there is a self turning wheel (although I've always seen it as doable, I have no "proof" in the way of a complete wheel), in that you're right.

But even Pure up there (who I don't usually agree with in this particular topic, but respect for having @ least the ability and curiosity to try a test, and then the resources to post it for all to see.), has professed that he sees potential in the concept and has posted IDEAS to be TRIED to see if it will further the concept to a proof.

All I'm seeing you doing is diddling yourself through belittling others.

You need to up the Ritalin dosage.

;)
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

exxcomm0n

.....and back on the content side of the aisle........

So, now we ARE using gates.

Cool! ;)

Then the question is where their application can have the most benefit.

We've seen the 80% climb, but won't it have to be continual not to stick on the last gate?

Are we still using an outside weight to break that "weaker" wall? Or will it be a continual circle instead?

If there are shifting weights still, would there be a way to adapt that attraction shift from wide gate to narrow gate (as evidenced in vid 5 or 6 from the vid series before this latest one) for rod lift?
(Errrrr....now I think about it, the attraction of iron to mag would cancel any mag/mag repel effect.)


@ Archer

With the new wheel design, the rod arms and the weight arms are not above/below each other.
Does this mean the weights are static now (more flywheel than gravity effect)?
If not, how will the lever actuate the weight?

If you have any thoughts on any of the above questions, they'd be welcome.

@ all

How's that for "focus"?


P.S. I've finally conceived a process that will allow me to PARTIALLY test my iron attract theory (a pendulum with 1 rod and 1/2 the arc having a  nut cut in 1/2 with a dremel glued to one side).
If I get off my lazy ass and actually do it, I'll try to post a vid. ;)

:D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

CLaNZeR

Anyone else struggling to get to youtube.com tonight?

Would like to see Archers new Tri-gate videos.

I like the Trigate Roller video that Archer did with the magnets under the aluminium, but could see the pull back on exit, if the starting level was the same as the finish level and it cleared, then I would get excited.If finish level was higher than start level and it cleared I would VERY excited!.

It only takes a small difference in height of the start point and finish point to make it look like it is breaking the natural balance in the magnetic field, and having the start higher (even by a couple of mm) than the end where it breaks through the attractive gate is nice for one gate, but the second will not be as kind.

So very interested to see these new videos.

Good stuff Archer, shame about the 20th mate, but that is the FE/OU world and it all takes time to try out ideas.

Cheers

Sean.



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