Roll on the 20th June

[sm0ky2]

@ zero, it was intentionally simplified to only include the verticle displacement.

we could go through the labourous calculations if you like:

of:   Inertia =  [  (gravity - @ * r) / @] * mass * r 

but i think you will find that a vertically mounted wheel of this size/mass with the gravitational-focal point at its outer circumference will still rotate at approx. 30rpm.

thus the values represented above still hold.

The kenetic energy is a function of the total mass of the wheel, whereas the potential energy converted into rotational velocity is represented by the height of the mass offsetting the balance.
With a "massless wheel" these two values are equivalent. with a Horizontally mounted wheel - there is a large intertial force to overcome. a Vertically mounted wheel, such as a bicycle-wheel - this inertial force can for the most part be neglected. As the gravitational force working to turn it is so large in proportion.
(like a pendulum in free-fall)

using a computer simulation, such as LabPro: you would set your radius of the "pulley" to the same as the radius of the wheel.

This example does not take losses into account, such as that of friction on the center of rotation, wind resistance, ect.

[sm0ky2]

for instance, if you were to take a wheel, and mount a radial-plate on its outer edge, with a weight on it.
and the proportion of this weight were very small compared to the total mass of the wheel.
[but large enough to move the wheel freely]
and arranged  such that the plate when it reaches 6-o'clock were to strike a rod- that activates a Dynamo

a small fraction of the energy produced by this Dynamo, could then fire a solenoid or electromagnet to lift the weight back to the top.

leaving an enormous ammount of excess energy
i think this is what archer is trying to show us.

[0ne]

Magnets are made with electricity. All they do is store a very high amount of electricity for long periods of time. You can make your own magnets with soft iron and a car battery. Read some of Ed Leedskalnins books, he will tell you how. Elecricity doesn't exist, its just magnetism.

With "soft" iron its realy easy to align the magnetic poles of the atoms. Once the atoms are aligned, they will loop "electricity" or "magnetism" through the body of the magnet, almost infinitly.  This is perpeutal motion in itself. Once you figure out why soft iron is easyer to magnetise then regualr iron, then you will know what i know. The secret of the universe.

A magnet is perpetual motion only YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT IS SPINNING.

[bourne]

I have done a VERY quick picture.....

Is it correct ?? Particularly the magnet arcs ??

I have also made an improvement !!

Instead of the tubes containing the weighted rods spanning the entire diameter of the wheel, thus giving the problem of stacking them on top of each other, I have made the tubes just large enough to contain the weights so they can all be mounted on the same plane of the wheel. Then simply joined the weights with, either, flat bar or stiff wire. A small kink at the centre point would allow each bar/wire to slide past each other with no friction.

[helmut]

If you have a balanced wheel with a total mass of 1000Kg. its radius being 9.8 m.

Then place a weight at approx. 12:01 - this weight's mass being 1Kg.
Then it stands that the weight will fall for a distance of 9.8 meters, incuring a fall of 1 sec. adding a total of

96.04 J of energy to the wheel. - this is subsequently the energy required to move this 1kg mass back up 9.8 meters to the top of the wheel.

Now lets look at what happens to the wheel::::

when the counterweight reaches 6'oclock - this wheel is now rotating at 9.8 m/s
having a total combined mass of 1001Kg.

This gives the kenetic energy of the wheel:

500.5Kg * [(9.8m/s)^2]  = roughly 48KJ of kenetic energy.

96.04J input energy
40,068.02J output energy
any questions?

If the Radius is 9,8 Meter,than the Hight is twice the radius.
But i guess you ment the diameter.
I doubt,that the fall of 9,8 Meter takes 1 second only.
Better lets calculate 3,6 seconds.So we get a ~16 rpm speed.
The lift up should be made in 1,2 sec.because there are three arms on the wheel.
That makes : 3 *1kg/halve spokes*9,8m/s2*0,6 meter (calculated elevation pro arm/halve rotation*16 rpm in quadrat
3*9,8*0,6 *(17,64)=311,1696J  *16=  4978,7136Joule
Supposed,that the wheel is running continuisly ,i calculate 1006 *9,8*16 = 157740,8Joule
That shows me an input from rowly  4978 Joule and an output from 157740Joule.
Thats qite a lot of power.
But honestly:I dont trust my own Calculation. Better is to take mesures of a life acting wheel




helmut