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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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ramset

Konduct Archer posted on his sight  an example of a way to tune a mag field so the incoming wheel is pulled thru the attracting field with minimum grab at the gate [end]   Chet
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ramset

Konduct my example of what Archer is doing with the pulling field[stationary] is not correct   he is using the pull to lift the suspended[magnetically hovering] rods out to unbalance the wheel   to make them fall and rotate the wheel in sequence@Borg  I saw a smot video with leggo toys that broke thru the gate on an incline and dropped[I think 19 mm in 6inch travel] on you tube   Stephan had a video also doing this but not up a ramp [just breaking thru]    Chet
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ramset

Konduct the whole point of my observation  was the infrastructure Archer designed to do this on a wheel [tunable and easily /quickly ] with  nonferrous straps [and magnets]was/ is engineering genius  Chet
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1234aware

Has anyone thought of using the doorbell effect.
Basically if you fire a mag coil it will center a piece of steel (in the case of a doorbell a spring pulls it back to off center).

You could use the setup in two ways:
1) Fire the coil to bring the weight back to low potential state (which would have your coil turned on from say 7:00 to 11:00)
When the coil is off the centripetal force will pull the weight to the outside and create unbalanced torque (if your rpm is high enough)
2) Setup a spring to overcome centripetal force and hold the weight close (higher rpm/mass will force the spring to be heavier but the spring can be close to the axial or even on the weight side).
Fire the coil to overcome the spring and push the weight out (from 2:00 - 4:00 as 3:00 is max torque under gravity).

In this model your weight can move a great distance and the weight itself can be large the axial can be long and you just keep adding these setups to the end of the axial (at various degrees of offset)
The question then becomes does the torque create enough power to run the coil and which setup works better from an efficiency perspective.

exxcomm0n

Hey kids,

Been sidetracked waiting for delivery and having a flooded basement (interesting how having to move a lot of water can teach you about fluid dynamics in a hurry).

@ Archer

Good on ya mate! As frustrating as you may view us and you're still forging ahead w/ your build.

Keep it up and prove the naysayers wrong.

My idea below may be the complete antithesis of the (your rediscovered) concept, but it amuses me and should keep my derelict butt busy for a while.

@ all

I wanted to build and test a prototype before posting but I'm antsy about this idea.

Solenoids.

What if the electromagnet was not exerting influence from the exterior of the wheel, but instead was surrounding the tube w/ the magnet/weight inside it on the axis of the wheel?

I've read that you can generate electricity by dropping a permanent magnet inside a coil of wire (solenoid), but can you also influence movement of a magnet by applying voltage to the coiled wire?

Or, use a iron core slug in the center as a fixed location electromagnet attracting/repelling separate magnet weights in the tube towards the center and out to the perimeter? (An electromagnet has poles like any other magnet, correct?)

I still have to draw this out to see if it has any merit and if so, if the tubes could all occupy the same plane instead of being stacked one atop the other.
This would make 6 tubes, 1 magnet/weight apiece. Then you could statically mount the pulse electromagnet 7/1 and use permanents to keep the angle.

Just thoughts, no hard evidence...........yet.

Also, I saw someone post that perhaps my idea won't work due to the scale not being 1M+, and perhaps they are right. But unless they have a physical object lesson to make of it (me) and can post it/show me, I'll keep forging ahead. :D
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