Roll on the 20th June

[infringer]

RedRiderno22,

Care to post a video of your success...

And possibly elaborate on your design such as materials used and possily size and other specs.

Thanks for the confirmation though I believe this is the first written confirmation, a video would better help substatiate your own confirmation.

@ all thanks much for the links of magnet suppliers online very nice indeed didnt know that many exsisted

excomm: yes I believe that would work rather well for battery terminals they ancients used to use sand and wood to make holes in limestone if I remember correct it was an arguous task indeed but they managed.

Archer you appear to have lived a pretty unsheltered life. I had little doubt that you'd tuck tail and run after a few people slam you for your attempt at cheap clean energy. As for the steorn thing I don't unerstand the relation to gases that you mentioned sounds like familiar gases from the pap engine... But then again I dont like to read into stuff I wish you would be a bit more blunt for the leyman and a little less crypitc on the steorn thing i'm sure I am not the only one that wishes to hear your complete theory on steorn....

1sn0's - I would have to say there is currently a working business model in place already in this thread free energy would simply mean a shift in dynamics and types of fuel used... Earlier in this topic I explained how things could progress as far as employment personally I am a firm believer that if the human mind can work out the dynamics of free energy they definately can work out the dynamics of business model... Another point is you forget about the number of jobs lost do to our struggling econemy a big reason why our econmy is struggling around the world is energy costs lets not just think oil here lets think on a grander scale lets thing airlines lets think automotive co lets thing of every other company that layed off thousands practically one big business in every county had large scale layoffs around here with the money saved from energy costs any company could employ a substantial amount of employee's.... Sure the billionare may have to work for less and get his shoes dirty too if he wants even more then his billions but.... Thats life! If they are not fit for manual labor I'd imagine there would be a large influx of computer based jobs once energy became free ... Hydrogen refuling stations for transport sounds mighty possible as well hydrogen production cost zero dollars on site even... less equipment costs.

@dusty any progress have you tried to add extentions to your pvc sliders as proposed by archer?

@ Brad Pit very interseting this is the type of thing we need little videos while they may seem dumb to some or nothing special they may be the holy grail for someone your little video should spur a positive pool of thinking at worst.

Magnets do provide power without a magnet you have no power. Name one electricity generation method that does not involve magnets?

[capthook]

I wouldn't  be building his frame as I stated above if I didn't  have some confidence in his ability to come thru     Chet

Archer, how goes the build on the first machine?

have stopped it for the moment because i got the other one to work straight off (the egyptian fulcum) so am building it as i know it will absoluetly be ready on the day and have all but one part

Ummm - isn't the "first machine" just a 2nd build of the original working toy-sized device of 2 years ago that is only being scaled up and so easy to build a dumb blonde could understand it?

Now the device you are building is an "egyptian fulcrum" - because you got it "to work straight off"?  Not the "gravity wheel" you have been promoting for the past month?

CH

AGAIN - YOU ARE NOT BUILDING THE WHEEL?  The one you built before that WORKS (so says YOU?  Now you are building an "egyptian fulcrum"?  What? Why? HUH??

Hey Chet - how's that frame for the wheel working out for you?  How many others have built 1/2 of a "whipmag 2" ??

Archer - why in the HECK would you tell the world to join and follow you in rebuilding your WORKING(so SAYS you) OU device - and then abandon the project half way through??
YEEEESHH   

CH

[The Eskimo Quinn]

gee umm, well because of time and not kwowing the exact dimesnsion of the upscale to get it by the date and uuumm let me see i did give my word for pepetual motion, so umm i should not use the one i just got working that scale does not affect, in place of one i may not get exactly on the date to reproduce the first one???

yep that would be newtonian logic.

tell me one person (with any brains) that would prefer to wait if i am not finsihed the wheel, insyead of having perpetual motion on the day. I am confident that with the instructions and answerts to question i am giving others will have the wheel before that date anyway. So you will have 2.

A builder cannot claim what the achitect designs, so i am happy for them to do it.

yep that makes sense lets all stop doing what we know can be done and trade it for upscaling an item that is difficult.

onyabike clown

[Glassglue]

and not bad instructions from a guy who apparantly doesn't understand a simple lever
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I dunno bout that. Yer all patting each other on the back for machines that continue to not work. No perpetual motion here folks, nothing to see move along.  Newton reigns! Woohoo! LOL. Or at least he's whipping your ass anyway Archer. Figured you'd have that Egyptian fulcrum repeating by now as u claimed it would b so quick and simple u were going to abandon your tried and true wheel for it. Lol what a load of crap. Or do you not have the $10 it would take to buy the materials to finish because u spent $45 large on building a travel trailer from the ground up? Get back to work boy u still have zero credibility here.

[sm0ky2]

Another question for anyone who can help....

Is the creation of an electro-magnet for the purposes of an energy-store more or less efficient than storing energy in, say, a lithium-ion or other current battery technology?

thanks...dixie

an electromagnetic field is present when electricity is flowing (with or without a conductor)

an electromagnet is just a special coil of metal/wire designed to focus that field in a certain direction.

They dont "store" energy,. they simply WASTE energy - to perform the same task a permanent magnet does.
The same electromagnet could be turned on for 30-45 seconds, and polarize a piece of iron of sufficient mass. which could then perform the same task as that electromagnet -for decades without any further energy input into it.  The electromagnet, however, must have constant supply of wasted electricity to generate its field.

We use them because they are controllable. we can turn them on/off, change their strength at our will.
It is advantages like this, that make them the perfered choice in industry. and worth the additional costs.
(how would the junk-yard worker drop the car if his crane had a permanent magnet??)