I don't want to sound like a jerk...

[Elvis Oswald]

I agree 100% magneto.  Logic would dictate that all overunity devices claimed over the years have been frauds or mistakes, since none of them are being used today. 
It also makes sense to me that if someone (like Steven Marks) has a working device...  then he needs to shit or get off the pot.  That whole thing is worth doubting at least... but the video being from 1997, makes it almost 100% sure to be a fraud.  Of course I noticed that he has a new video now... I shouldn't have brought it up... haha.

[jake]

>> Note that when we say overunity we are refering to Coefficient Of Performance (COP), not to efficiency.

It is not obvious to the casual observer that this is the case.  It would add credibility to the site to be very clear about this.  I am new to the site, and I don't see any "about us" type of page that states or defines what "overunity" is.  I am new to the term "overunity" and did some searching, which quickly led me to this site.  Most of the information I see on the subject appears "cultish" to me.  People trying to make truths out of things they want to be true, that they think should be true, that never will be true (i.e. perpetual motion, etc.).

[c0mster]

The best thing about this site is that there are many ideas and theories posted here. Ok perhaps some people are magicians and have a bag of tricks to try to fool people or perhaps some people are actually using the bag of tricks to produce something. From what I can tell history shows that philosophy leads to proving. Take Faraday for instance in his book Experimental Research In Electricity Part 1. Faraday discovered that passing a magnet by a steal bar rapped with a coil produced a voltage. Today this is the principle of all ac generators, but really he was trying to understand the voltage produced by a falling current in a induction coil. If one looks back over the last 300 years it seems that big discoveries were found about every 100 years that changed our existence. I am neither a skeptic or a believer in overunity. But if in the early 1800?s some one told you they had a buggy that needed no horse to make it move and did not run on steam, people might think your are crazy. We all know now that the combustion engine drives our society. I find it hard to find people who understand the difference between philosophy and actual proving of a concept. I work with a guy who has all kinds of ideas he as systematically developed and tested in his head. He has drawn pictures and is convinced he has an idea that works. But physically he has no lab and has not lifted a finger to try his ideas. A few months ago I noticed a neighbor a few doors down had a motorbike that he stripped and placed batteries on the sides of the bike. I was amazed to see this, he is the first person I have actually met face to face that is doing something with his hands. It?s a little strange only hearing the tires on the road and the drive chain noise coming from a motor bike. Lots of talk goes on about the school girl motor and how it might be overunity and it may not. But one thing discovered was that using BEMF generated from a frequency would charge or recondition old batteries. Well turns out my neighbor purchased a battery charger for china that can recondition old batteries and he claims it brought batteries that tested as junk back to good. He uses those batteries on his bike. So I had a look at this device and gee it was using a frequency to create BEMF through a coil and the BEMF is used to charge the battery. For those of you who remember the 70?s there was a guy that had a carburetor that would give incredible gas mileage when used on a conventional engine and my father told me he had seen it first hand. That is the closest I have come to any of these devices. Skepticism can be like brain storming, it can uncover the truth and lead to ideas not thought of before. Oh boy this is long winded. But if there a people reading this site and trying to replicate these devices then their knowledge has expanded. If they don?t post answers to questions perhaps they are trying something physically and believe me that takes time and money. Perhaps people are just philosophical and are followers, I look to my own experiments to determine BS from truth and I document every thing and spend hours looking over the experiments to see if I missed anything. So BS or not BS keep up the good work folks.

Camster         

[jake]

Experiment all you want, but don't ignore physics.  It is a viable goal to try to figure out things would work like heat pumps that return more heat value than the electricity put in (other energy is being added by heat present in the air), but it is completely foolish to think you can get more energy out of something than is being put it.  If you do, you are simply not accounting for the energy being put in.  It is wishful thinking.

As for the magic carburetor, it is urban legend.  Since your dad saw it, just what mileage did it get?

>>I look to my own experiments to determine BS from truth and I document every thing and spend hours looking over the experiments to see if I missed anything

Believe me, if you start 'creating' energy, you missed something. (releasing energy is one thing, creating it is another.)

[c0mster]

Good point Jake.
Unfortunately my poor father is dead so I can?t ask him for more details of the carburetor and as well I have herd it is an urban myth. If I don?t have the evidence I won?t say it is for real. But I can tell you of a device I seen on a pick up truck that increased the old dodge gas mileage by about 30%. I was working for a farmer back in 79 and he had built this unit that heated the gas before it went into the carb. It was a fairly simple design. A coil cylinder which was inline with the engines heater hose. Inside was a inner coil of tubing, basically the gas was heated from the engine or as the farmer explained, the gas was expanded thus the expansion took place before it entered the intake manifold and cylinders of the engine wasting less fuel. He told me the heat from the engine was extra energy and could be transferred to expand the fuel. So there is no overunity here and energy is not created out of thin air. I have never seen or herd of this unit on any other vehicle. Don?t get me wrong I don?t ignore physics. Tesla talks of the either which was abandoned and only in the last few years it has been shown that matter still exists in a zero point vacuum. Your right you can?t create something from nothing. To abide to the laws of physics energy can only be transferred not created. As well if these OU units worked then why don?t I have one powering my house. So with regards to the heat pump, perhaps the magnetic force around the earth acts the same as the heat in the air. All we need to do is understand how to transfer that energy to assist in giving us better efficiency in producing electricity.

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I?m not sure how many people read these posts but perhaps some on can answer this question. I have a brass ring and a brass circle. The brass of course is not magnetic neither does it easily become statically charged.  Connecting these two items to a Tesla type coil and adjusting the gab between the 2 items at a certain point there is both static electricity as measured using a electroscope , and magnetism as measured by a compass. When pulsed slowly the electroscope shows static electricity and  the compass shows magnetism. So if I stop the arc then start it the compass moves 3 after about the third pulse it moves 6 at this point and then after only moves 3 , repeats. Based on electricity fundamentals charge is either in motion or static (The old textbook) . But magnetism created by a coil is charge in motion, moving electrons. Static electricity is excess electrons, always trying to balance themselves. Can anyone tell me why The magnetism is not constant? Note the brass ring is grounded to the earth not the circuit.

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I think this site is a great place for brainstorming and finding all kinds of new and different philosophies, I enjoy recreating ideas or concepts I find here, I think to me, that is what gives this site credibility. Its all in how to read it, entertainment.


Camster