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Overunity Machines Forum



new? magnet/gravity motor

Started by 2b, April 28, 2008, 06:26:49 PM

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2b

> There is no force more in one direction than the other direction, so it will not run.

sure there is - there is more work done by gravity on the right side than the left side - so long as the cylindrical magnets are shifted more than 1/2 way up the spoke as they align themselves with the static magnets.

> Or simply put: Magnetmotors simply do not work due to the nature that permanent magnets are - yes permanently magnetized.

it isn't a magnet motor, it is a magnet-based gravity Bessler Wheel.

BasementExperiments

Wow, this is so cool. I had the very same idea ever since I seen some examples on youtube of various sorts.

This looks like the same sort of idea

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xi7haprAEvA

I really like this one too.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LRRzVHLs4bU&feature=related

It does seem like it would work well...

There are a number of them all resulting in the idea of an unbalanced wheel. Looking forward in seeing some results from the experiment!  ;D

2b

> the strength/distance of the stator magnets would be such that is was strong enough to 'slide' the magnet towards the outside of the arm, but not strong enough to pull the mass of the wheel to a stop.

right, and the cylindrical magnets only have to move about half-way up the spoke toward the upper right - not all the way - just enought to let gravity do an excess of work on the right side.

> the shielding was not so much to prevent repulsion/attraction, but rather to direct that repulsion + attraction along the radial-line of the 'arm'. offsetting the balance of the wheel, while allowing gravity to pull the wheel in the direction of rotation

right, although the shielding on the lower-left static magnet actually ATTRACTS the oncoming cylindrical magnet in favor of CW revolution, and then all cylindrical magnets get a big 'boost' to the upper-right as the cylindrical magnets align with the static magnets.  so, there is only about 1-2 degrees of magnetic repulsion opposing the CW rotation as the magnets pass each other on the lower-left.  keep in mind, the cylindrical magnets oppose each other, so the effect of the lower-left static magnet shifts both cylindrical magnets, so i think it should be the most powerful.  it also does anti-gravity work in pushing the cylindrical magnet on the left upwards.

BasementExperiments

Wait, you should never be "PULLING" these magnets, they should always be pushed.

From the bottom side they are being pushed, this same technique should be used at the top side.

Therefore the magnet array should start near the ceter and gradually push outwards.

gwhy!

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on May 01, 2008, 01:25:04 AM
Hi All
Yes I was about to say before someone else did that it wouldn't work because the repoltion would be to strong, there is a way you can use the Trigate with a gravity design and thats if you have 8 arms and a weight on each arm except one, the weight will be the Trigates roller magnet, you have the Trigate setup from 11 to 12:30 when a arm gets to 11 it drops a roller off the roller moves along to 12:30 and drops onto the arm that had no roller the moves the arm down to 1 and the opposite arm up to 11 where it drops the next roller onto the Trigate and the system starts again, its only moving from 12 to 1 every turn but its moving and should keep moving aslong as there is no magnetic interfearance.
Take Care All
Graham

Hi Graham,
     Im sorry I cant quite visualize what you are saying, any chance of a little diagram.