David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device

[Dbowling]

Please remember the most important part of my diagram was that battery number 3 is a DEAD battery. Not just a LOW battery, but a DEAD one that WILL NOT HOLD A CHARGE. If it holds a charge, things DO NOT WORK as I have described them. This is critical for who knows what reason. Here is my best guess based on the results I have seen.
When electricity is flowing into the "dead" battery it is forced through it and out the other side, charging it. But as the motor pulses during its rotation that completed circuit is continuously broken allowing the "cold" electricity from an outside source to be added to the system.

If battery 3 is just a low battery, yes it will charge, the motor will run, and you will even be able to run additional loads, but eventually the voltage on batteries 1 and 2 will go down.

The info on the motor I was using

CIM
First Robotics
FR801-001
12Vdc
101104

That's everything that was written on the motor.

I used Werker 12 volt 18 amp hour batteries, Universal Batteries 12 volt 18 amp hours and Power Sonic 12 volt 18 amp hour batteries.

[Dbowling]

If you read my description of my first experiment again, you will see that when I first flipped the switch, NOTHING happened. The motor did not run. I sat around for 15 or 20 minutes talking to a friend, and suddenly the motor started. It ran until all three batteries were fully charged, and then it SHUT ITSELF OFF. Battery 3 slowly drained and then it started back up again ALL BY ITSELF. It repeated this cycle over and over and over for several DAYS. I just let it run. If you flip the switch and yours starts up, you know that you do NOT have a dead battery in the #3 position, so go find a DEAD one.  Until you get the system to do THIS, you do NOT have a system that will continue to charge itself and run small appliances. Eventually battery 1 and 2 will run down as you continue to draw power from them to charge battery 3. Battery 3 HAS to be a battery that will NOT hold a charge. I wish I knew why, since I believe that, and the pulsing of the motor are the two things that make this whole thing work, and finding a dead battery isn't always easy.

[Omega_0]

It repeated this cycle over and over and over for several DAYS. I just let it run.

Sounds good ...

and finding a dead battery isn't always easy.

Lol , thats right, I'm trying to find one, may be ,kill a battery intentionally.

But thanks for a clear cut description and I guess its the first time in the history of this site that we have complete information on something.

[Groundloop]

@Dbowling,

Thanks for the additional information.

I found the data sheet for the motor you are using. (Attached.)

I can see from the data sheet that your motor is very similar to a electric drill motor,
so I will give it a try. I'm currently charging up two of my 12 Volt 7 Ampere batteries.
I have a dead 12 Volt 7 Ampere battery that will not charge up on a regular charger
or on a Bedini type charger, so I suppose the battery is what you say, dead.

Do you have any theories why a lead acid battery is transformed into a negative resistor
when the battery is "dead" eg. heavy sulfated etc?

Groundloop.

[Dbowling]

You've got everything right. I hooked all kinds of things to the terminals of battery 3 to keep it from getting charged, including my AC inverter. When I did that and turned the device plugged into the inverter on, the motor would speed up like crazy and the voltage on 1 and 2 would go way up. Sometimes as high as 16 or 18 volts and I got worried that the whole thing would blow up and I shut it down. The first time I did that, I remember we actually ran out of the room after we "pulled the plug" because the voltages on those two batteries was so high, and we were so intent on reading what was going on in battery 3 that we forgot about them. We were seriously worried about getting sprayed with battery acid. That night I bought two more meters so I had one for each battery.

I wish you all luck, and if anything comes of this, I hope you will keep me in the loop. I put this out here in the hopes that people a lot smarter than me will figure out ways to do this without a "dead" battery, because I am convinced that I could run a 12 volt electric motor hooked up to battery 3 until the end of time with this process. I just don't know if it would produce enough amps to run an electric car on. I would be interested in finding out.