David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device

[Kator01]

Hi all,

now it is interesting that no one has really correct numbers or knowledge of the condition of this Bat 3 used in the original experiment.

Whatever the condition of this Bat 3 was, this circuit puts Bat 1 + Bat 2 in parallel-mode to Bat 3.

Now all electronic professionals know that one never ever puts two batteries ( I mean any kind of rechargeable battery ) in parallell - even if one uses two kinds of exact the same voltage. The reason is simply this : even the smallest voltage-difference ( and this will happen for sure after a certain amount of time elapsed ) and even with no load attached will finally end up with both of the batteries go dead. They permantly work against each other and it is just a matter of time. A long-experienced electronic professional told me this some time ago.

Despite this well known fact, lap-top batteries are constructed exactly this way. I opened a lot of these battery-sets  in the past and found them partly totally dead - and all of these dead parts were the ones put in parallell.. This is the reason that these battery-sets die fast or at least loose capacity within a year or so- in addition to this :  there is a chip built in ( sort of timer ) which shuts them off after a certain period. I found in some of these sets almost every part fully charged - yet it did not deliver any power if I tried to draw power from the external leads.

@groundloop : one technique to try to bring a dead battery to live again is to apply duble or more of the nominal voltage in a pulsed mode. This could happen here if there are spikes from the motor-brushes. But with the voltage-drop across the motor there will be no more than 12 Volt at the beginning.

I hope you will have success but my knowledge tells me this is a typical obscure bedini-circuit where you need to spend a lot of time for experimenting until you find out the truth about it. I hate wasting time.

Regards

Kator

[Groundloop]

@Kator01,

The purpose of this circuit is not to bring a dead battery to live again.

The purpose is to produce free energy. If this circuit really works and
give us free energy then who cares if some "rules" are broken, eg.
connecting two batteries in series and then in parallel with a third one
through a load.

Groundloop.

[Goat]

@Groundloop

In your last test, did you try placing a direct lead connection behind the light and wait for the motor to start and then disconnect the lead?  I have had the same experience as David mentioned where after several minutes the Battery 3 would charge up and start the motor, unfortunately it was at the voltage expense of Battery 1&2 so not there yet.

I have ran a couple of tests on different motor configurations and depending on the motor and 12V lamp size I got different results, but none are achieving any meaningful results so far.

From re-reading the early posts David mentioned that when he went back to his old motor everything started working again so I still wonder how many variables from the original design makes this process not work? 

So I'm aiming for an "as close to the original components that David used" at this point so thanks for the motor info you gave us earlier, I'd like to get one of those by next week and the original sized batteries and give that a try.

@ Dbowling

In your earlier posts (Reply #50-2) you mentioned that your friend had replicated your design with no problems and that's when you went back to the original motor, was the motor that you changed from the original that much different?  Or was it the same model but newer? And how about your friend's motor?  Same motor?  New or used? 

Regards,
Paul

[Groundloop]

@Goat,

Yes, I did try to remove the lamp and use a wire instead. My motor did not start. I think my motor
is to big for my small batteries. The only effect I got was draining of the two big batteries and some
voltage gain in my "dead" battery. I agree that the only way to fully replicate this circuit is to use
the same motor and correct sized (ampere) batteries. Then the only unknown variable will be the
"dead" battery, as Kator01 correctly states.

Groundloop.

[Goat]

@Groundloop

For a couple of hundred Canadian pesos would you be willing to work with David in replicating his original design using as close as possible components, I'll pay for the test.  It would probably cost me more to mess it up anyways 

@Groundloop & Dbowling PM me if you are interested. 

Regards,
Paul