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Overunity Machines Forum



David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device

Started by sterlinga, April 30, 2008, 10:56:29 PM

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tinman

Quote from: citfta on September 03, 2017, 12:21:31 PM
I am not sure what you mean by formal, but he does give voltages and current readings for his drive motor while only turning the rotor with no coils.  Then the same after he added the unloaded coils and when the coils are loaded.  He also gives RPM readings if I recall correctly.  All that information is in the last few pages of that thread.  Most people will need to read the last few pages over a few times to grasp all he has posted.

Carroll

Hard to find that info with the infestation of Bro-Mikey.

I see there all still lost in what there trying to show,and still do not understand the effects of eddy current core drag,and how that is relieved by the induced magnetic field of the loaded coils.


Brad

citfta

Hi Brad,

In post #451 I believe he addresses that issue by comparing his motor draw with no coils and then with loaded coils.  I have copied it here so you don't have to dig through all the other stuff in that thread.  What surprised me was that his current draw with loaded coils was LESS than with no coils at all.  I have worked with David a lot over the last several years and he can be hard to follow because of his lack of training in electronics but I believe he sincerely is searching for free energy and may be getting close.

Quote:
Mario,
Here is what leads me to believe I have SUUL.

When I run my motor turning the rotor with no coil in place I get a specific amp draw and a specific RPM. I have placed a weight on the shaft that is the same weight as the rotor, and the amp draw and RPM's with that weight in place are the same as with the rotor in place, which leads me to believe that turning a rotor creates no phenomenon that I am not accounting for. When a coil pair is placed near the rotor, the amp draw of the motor goes up and the RPM's go down because of what I call "magnetic drag" which is not the proper term, but it is caused by trying to turn the magnets on the rotor past an iron core to which they are attracted and want to "lock" onto. With one coil pair. the "drag is not that great, but with six coil pair it is so great that without compensation, the motor is incapable of starting the rotor turning, and even if you break the lock and get it started, the amp draw far exceeds the recommended amp draw of the motor.

By adjusting the relationship between the coil pair and passing rotor I can get the amp draw to go back down to almost exactly where it was and the RPM to go up to almost where it was before the coil was added.

Now I add a load to the coil and the amp draw goes down to below what it was with no coil in place and the RPM goes up higher than what it was with no coil in place. Whether the load is a light bulb or an electric motor does not matter. And when the load is removed the amp draw goes back up and the RPM goes back down to the previous level.

The additional RPM's of the generator "under load" produce additional power. To see if this is significant I measure the output of the coil and then reduce the voltage input to achieve the same RPM's as I had before adding the coil. The coil output is GREATER at the higher RPM, obviously.

In summary, with these coils I can get more generated output for the same input or the same output for a reduced input. But to say they are of no use makes no sense to me. But I have an open mind so if you can point out the error in my testing method, I would SINCERELY appreciate it.

End of quote.

Take care,
Carroll

tinman

Quote from: citfta on September 04, 2017, 10:42:47 AM
Hi Brad,

In post #451 I believe he addresses that issue by comparing his motor draw with no coils and then with loaded coils.  I have copied it here so you don't have to dig through all the other stuff in that thread.  What surprised me was that his current draw with loaded coils was LESS than with no coils at all.  I have worked with David a lot over the last several years and he can be hard to follow because of his lack of training in electronics but I believe he sincerely is searching for free energy and may be getting close.

Quote:
Mario,
Here is what leads me to believe I have SUUL.

When I run my motor turning the rotor with no coil in place I get a specific amp draw and a specific RPM. I have placed a weight on the shaft that is the same weight as the rotor, and the amp draw and RPM's with that weight in place are the same as with the rotor in place, which leads me to believe that turning a rotor creates no phenomenon that I am not accounting for. When a coil pair is placed near the rotor, the amp draw of the motor goes up and the RPM's go down because of what I call "magnetic drag" which is not the proper term, but it is caused by trying to turn the magnets on the rotor past an iron core to which they are attracted and want to "lock" onto. With one coil pair. the "drag is not that great, but with six coil pair it is so great that without compensation, the motor is incapable of starting the rotor turning, and even if you break the lock and get it started, the amp draw far exceeds the recommended amp draw of the motor.

By adjusting the relationship between the coil pair and passing rotor I can get the amp draw to go back down to almost exactly where it was and the RPM to go up to almost where it was before the coil was added.

Now I add a load to the coil and the amp draw goes down to below what it was with no coil in place and the RPM goes up higher than what it was with no coil in place. Whether the load is a light bulb or an electric motor does not matter. And when the load is removed the amp draw goes back up and the RPM goes back down to the previous level.

The additional RPM's of the generator "under load" produce additional power. To see if this is significant I measure the output of the coil and then reduce the voltage input to achieve the same RPM's as I had before adding the coil. The coil output is GREATER at the higher RPM, obviously.

In summary, with these coils I can get more generated output for the same input or the same output for a reduced input. But to say they are of no use makes no sense to me. But I have an open mind so if you can point out the error in my testing method, I would SINCERELY appreciate it.

End of quote.

Take care,
Carroll

Hi Carroll

Hard to know without seeing the test carried out.

Perhaps by adding coils,he reduced the wind drag of the rotor?

Like i said--hard to know without seeing it.


Brad

profitis

"Like i said--hard to know without seeing it"

So true

citfta

Hi Brad,

I wrote a reply but must have forgotten to post it after reviewing it.  Anyway I hope to have a lot more free time in a few months and want to visit Dave to check out his system.  I already have a pretty good idea of what he is doing but seeing it first hand will of course make things much clearer.  He has said he is open to anyone that wants to come out and check out what he is doing.

Take care,
Carroll