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Started by nightlife, May 13, 2008, 11:27:44 AM

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petersone

Hi Gyula
I read all you suggested with interest,as I always do,I don't know if the Bulgarian "thing" will work,but I do think it's the way to go if you are going to put a gen.on the output of a motor,going to the trouble making the motor,the energy turning it,then it's got to turn the gen.with no doubt lenz effect,better to cut out the "middle man" and go for a meg type thing,if it can be shown to work.
I'm by no means an expert,as you can see from my stupid suggestions,but I feel I agree with EXNIHILOEST,I can't how the input coils don't interact with the output coil,it seems all it needs is the reluctance to be shifted just slightly one side to the other,preferably keeping the two coil separated,can it be that difficult?
Thanks again.
happy hunting
peter

petersone

Hi Gyula,again
Forgot this bit, you say dump the energy into a cap.for use between pulses,dos the coil not see the cap. as a load?
missed out a word in last post,should be can't SEE-----
peter

gyulasun

Quote from: petersone on June 09, 2008, 05:14:54 PM

... if you are going to put a gen.on the output of a motor,going to the trouble making the motor,the energy turning it,then it's got to turn the gen.with no doubt lenz effect,...

Hi Peter,

Yes, I agree, choosing a separate generator for producing electricity is usually not a promising way to go about utilizing an ou motor's torque but there are ready made conventional (three phase) generators with way over 60-70% efficiency and once an ou motor like the Hildebrand one has 3-4 times higher output than a normal motor and drives it, then this can result easily in overunity too.  This is all I meant. Obviously the generator will have the normal operation with Lenz, but its specification includes that.

Quote from: petersone on June 09, 2008, 05:14:54 PM

...I can't see how the input coils don't interact with the output coil,it seems all it needs is the reluctance to be shifted just slightly one side to the other,preferably keeping the two coil separated,can it be that difficult?

Well, if you can correctly time the control of the input and output switches, then the input coil(s) first are on and the output coils are off so that the load cannot reflect back to the input.  Then in the next sequence the input coils are off and the output coi(s) are on thus can see the load.
Yes the output coil also sees the capacitor as a load but it is an exponentially diminishing load, not a continuous one like a bulb for instance and this is a big difference. By the way, to avoid even this smaller than a real load cap charge load during the input coil on time, I wrote in my previous letter to make the output switch act at the coil' wire end and not after the puffer cap if you read it over again.

rgds,  Gyula

petersone

Hi  Gyula
I'm not sure I understand all you are saying,I will make a sketch and perhaps you can kindly tell me if I've got it right,I doubt it!!
How I think you see it is,in it's very basic form,use 2 "ou" transformers,one for each side of the ac 50hz,when one is on,the other is taking juice from the cap.with of course switching at the right time and place.
Am  I right so far?
happy hunting.
peter

gyulasun

Hi Peter,

I did not mean two "ou" transformers but one.  So please do make a rough sketch how you mean, ok?

As I found years ago on the net with connection to the MEG, the principle is this:
The input coil(s) is pulsed normally by either opto trigger or Hall effect switch or by reed switch (if current allowes it).
Whenever the input coil is ON by the input switch, the output switch in series with the output coil is OFF.  Then the switching sequence turns over: the input coil is OFF and during this OFF time the switch at the output is ON and  connects either an AC load to the output coil or in case of a DC load it connects the diodes and the puffer cap to the output coil.  Is this clear now?

I do not claim any ou with this switching principle,  this is good for preventing a load to reflect back to the input, ok?
So if there is circuit or whatever setup which is supposed to produce ou but has no correct input - output separation, then this principle can help.

rgds,  Gyula