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Overunity Machines Forum



Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex

Started by Alexioco, May 14, 2008, 10:31:22 AM

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AB Hammer

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Alexioco

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it is the one that starts as OOPS I forgot the avi

due to its size it may take a little while.
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Strange, I cannot see the file anywhere on the messages you send me, they are usaly at the bottom
The love of God is great and true,
A special thing for Him and you,
A perfect friend, a Father too,
Lift up your hearts for He is true.

Gustav22

Hi Harti and everybody,
I agree to Harti's thoughts about the manipulation of the centre of mass (centre of graity)
I also want to draw your attention to several points:

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 13, 2008, 10:23:36 AM
....
When a weight has gone down in the gravity field without being attached to a spring,
its potential energy has been converted totally to kinetic energy and its energy has been "lost".
....

Harti, in the quoted text you say, the potential energy has been converted.
I agree.
In the next half sentence you suddenly say the energy is lost.
How can it be lost, when you said it was converted? It is still there as kinetic energy ( = speed).
It must now be converted back to potential energy.

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 13, 2008, 10:23:36 AM
....
But again I miss my own principle, how I understand a gravity wheel
can only work is that there are no springs which store the movement
( that means store the potential energy) of the weights.
....

I understand that you want to use springs more or less as storage batteries for the potential energy.
But I think you don't need them. Please try to see the whole wheel as a battery, which stores the energy as speed (= angular momentum, kinetic energy). The amount of stored energy will accumulate (= get bigger and bigger), as more gravitational force impacts the wheel over time.
The wheel will speed up (= run away).
Bessler needed the external pendulums to restrict the speeding up.

I think Alexioco is very close in his latest diagrams, especially the one I attached here.
Please also compare this to my drawing here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4514.msg96275.html#msg96275

Maybe you can simulate this latest simple mechanism by Alexioco, Harti !?

PS I think there will be several embodiments which will work, as long as the shifted weights B and D are shifted directly  through the central hub of the wheel as in  Alexioco's drawing, to avoid keeling.
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