Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex

[hartiberlin]

I  did now a few more new simulations and all have the problem,
that the CoG ( Center of Gravity) of the wheel
shifts just down and then the wheel
just keels.
Also the same with using springs.

Also these drawings Alex and Gustav put up from the MT combination are pretty
flawed, cause the folding rods in the lower part are longer than in the upper part of the wheel,
so it does not work like this...
It can not fold together like this.
These drawings are overexagerated, so to say..

So I think, the only way to get a perpetual wheel
is using the centrifugal forces somehow.

Just the weight forces alone do not work.

One must convert the centrifugal and centripetal forces somehow
to unidirectional forces and use these to lift the weights up again.
Remember Bessler?s wheel was said to have made a lot of noise,
so the weights must have been pretty fast inside the machine,
so he probably also used centrifugal forces.

Just moving weight forces alone would not have made such a noise.

I will post this evening a few of my simulations, so you can see, how they
all keel out.

Regards, Stefan.

[Alexioco]

Ok then

[AB Hammer]

Besslers wheel was said to have 8 hits per round and scratching sounds like wood rubbing together.

CF is the enemy it has caused more wheel designs not to work or if they even could, they would not work very well due to the CF effect. You have to overcome CF effects and still make it heavier on the descending side and keep the shifting that way.

[Alexioco]

I wander how the answer is so simple yet we cannot get it...

[hartiberlin]

I think I have found a first solution !

Remember it was said as ABHammer also repeated that there were scratching sounds.

In my view this can only be done by ramps.

Here I have come up with a 2 weight and pulley system and a ramp.
Very simple indeed !

The green weight has 40 Kgs.
The blue weight has 20 Kgs.
As the green weight is on the ramp,
it is getting much lighter and climbs the ramp
to the top and leaves it and falls down, as he green weight  is double the weight of the blue weight.

This could be incorporated into a wheel to lift heavier weights with lighter weights.
If you make both weights the same weight and let the blue weight also rise on a ramp
you can make a kind of see-saw effect.

So Bessler probably used pendulum weights and did put them on tilted ramps to move them up
and then let them fall again propelling the wheel.

I will further work on this and present some animations, when I have got a bit sleep for now..

Regards, Stefan.