Repelling "Fan" theory for a magnet motor

[Dact]

Hey Dact,
wind fan works on different principe.It is a force of air molecules hitting the fan blade and bouncing off ,that produce the reaction force on a fan blade(direction opposite to bounced off air molecule).With approaching front of a fan with a magnet,u will only get is spinning if u have any fraction of force in the parallel plane of fan(perpendiculair to its axis).It is more like a normal fan,that u want to get spinning by placing it with its face to the ground,hoping that gravity will pull the blades(and it does) and make the fan to spin(but it won't).
There is simply no force in the direction of spinning(perpendiculair to the fan shaft)...

is this what u r proposing?

If u want to set the main magnet under the slight angle u will have fan blades that are in stronger field(oposing to the movement because they have to overcome field strength to come closer to the main magnet) and the one who are in weaker field(making the movement ).



Nice idea would be to use some magnetic particles to accelerate in magnet field (magnet behid the fan) and hitting the blades on the way to the magnet.it would work like a wind fan.Now if we could get them out of the field and place  back in front of a fan,it could work for ever.But we still have no magnet shielding :|

Creativity,

Actually, I only used a 45 degree angle in my explanation as an example to help visualize the principle, but in actuality I guess I just muddied the waters even further!   

I originally envisioned that the blades would have only be tuned to just enough of an angle off of true perpendicular as to allow the repelling force of the stationary magnet to begin "pushing" the blades at a constant pressure, thereby steadily increasing the velocity. This is what I attempted to simulate in my WM2D model. The shallow angle would also seem to greatly reduce the interfering "attracting" polarity from the reverse side of the blades.

However, your idea intrigues me greatly. What if, depending on the shape of the fan, you placed a similar "fixed" magnet behind the fan, but with the opposite polarity. This would in effect create a mirrored device, yet using only 1 fan. The opposite fixed magnets would be in attraction to each other, but in repulsion to their respective surfaces of the blades. Would this be in effect what you were thinking? It seems plausible, but more suggestions and input will be needed here. Hope anyone reading this has an opinion.

Thanks,

Dact

[Dact]

Sorry Dact, I missread your first post and i didn't get it right. English is not my first language. Sorry. 
The model and original idea was from Dact, and I will change it in the next mods of the idea I will release.

xnonix

NP xnonix. I am anxious to see what your next mod holds!

Dact

[Creativity]

today i got some idea  still need to research in though.i imagined a magnetic fluid/emulsion used to propell the small turbine.Fluid would use the magnetic field of a magnet to move itself.What if there was a simple ,reversible chemical reaction allowing for example to bind ferromagnetic into diamagnetic molecule...we could use this reaction to remove otherwise magnetic fluid from the magnetic field.then reverse the reaction to make it back a magnetic substance and fropell the turbine.

[Dact]

today i got some idea  still need to research in though.i imagined a magnetic fluid/emulsion used to propell the small turbine.Fluid would use the magnetic field of a magnet to move itself.What if there was a simple ,reversible chemical reaction allowing for example to bind ferromagnetic into diamagnetic molecule...we could use this reaction to remove otherwise magnetic fluid from the magnetic field.then reverse the reaction to make it back a magnetic substance and fropell the turbine.

I think I understand. This would be similar to a closed loop steam engine, but instead of condensing the steam back to water to reuse, it would chemically revert the fluid back to be reused. Is this correct?

[Creativity]

yes exactly  now i just dont know if (for example) iron can be made non ferromagnetic when surrounded by some other molecules(kind of a shield on atomic level).
Like blood,has some iron in its but is it still ferromagnetic?
i found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrite
as an easy and fast example,it is diamagnetic and reacts less to the magnetic field than iron.