Self Rising Weight (MT 27)

[rlortie]

Alex,

Before you get to carried away with this. do me a favor please!

Look at the drawing below, add another "E"  to the left of the one in the upper right quadrant. These two "E's" are supporting the weights, are they not?

Now draw two vertical lines from these two "E's" and note the difference in spacing between your vertical lines and your axis. Pretty much centered, don't you think?  By adding the weight of the lower "B"levers to any slight offset you have and I bet you it will turn backwards slightly, find its COG and keel!

Please prove me wrong!  God I would love it if you could do so.

Ralph

[Alexioco]

Well it took me time to adjust the wheel to do what it does but I am sure this is what Bessler is getting at...
oh and by the way, if I make the weight even heavier it does not move up on its own, but if I attach just a little weight at the top of the wheel, it lifts the big weight on that lever, this wheel I now believe is that 4 - 1 ratio...

If I were to add the 2 weights like in that picture Ralph then the weight by the rim will lift the weight at the bottom half way up...

What this wheel is getting at is that a weight can be lifted with a lighter weight so it doesn't matter if both weights are now the same weight, it will move more than a normal wheel any how

[Alexioco]

Cool forum Alex - great info and nice color scheme.

Thanks 

Come and join in the search, my forum needs some help   

[AB Hammer]

Hay Alex

The e-mail is sent, and I see Ralph is giving you things to check. This is very good.

[rlortie]

Alex,

f I were to add the 2 weights like in that picture Ralph then the weight by the rim will lift the weight at the bottom half way up...

What this wheel is getting at is that a weight can be lifted with a lighter weight so it doesn't matter if both weights are now the same weight, it will move more than a normal wheel any how

My point!  Bessler wrote a lot of text with great forethought. He says a lot but but like an engineer explains little.  A few things he did make clear; First his machine would barely run with one cross-arm.  Second, if it does not turn with one unit, adding more is futile.

Your above description of "half way up" does not describe a device that will barely run. Half way means that ii is still finding a  keel point. Adding more units will not help as each set will have the same point of keel.

Adding weights to a "barely runner" makes for a better  runner, adding weights to a barely no-runner makes for a definite no-runner. 

Believe me, the Kelly/Lortie (Kellor)  design is capable of 290 degrees of positive torque rotation, with one weight, that is better than 75% of 360. Yet the remaining 70 degrees eludes us. Adding more units does not help, the machine still keels with one mechanism/weight  in the same relative position.

Good luck and I still hope you prove me wrong!

Ralph