Who is generating 5 Litters of HHO?

[Voltar X]

Hey guys: don't forget that Meyers was putting d.c. voltage into the brushes of the alternator, turning the alternator at 3000+ rpm using a 2:1 pulley on a 1750 electric motor. He then took the a.c. off of the alternator, converted it back into d.c. using a bridge. It's not just about volts and amps...it's also about the harmonic magnetic frequencies and the 3-phase a.c. that the alternator puts out. I agree that Boyce is the man but Meyers, Andrijii Puharich and Dingle were doing this long before him. Check out waterforfuel.com to see West's interpretation of Meyers' system. Hope this helps.

[Randohr]

I'm no where near 5 lpm yet.  Using brute force at a clamped 12 amps.  Using my stock alternator, my limit is approx. 20 amps before I impede it's "normal" operation.  Given this fact, and the fact that current creates HHO in the brute force designs, I doubt I'll ever get to 5 lpm without serious modifications to my plate area and overall cell size.  (water filter case w/ SS wall plates) I tried a pwm and promptly smoked it.  I am currently using a 1 ohm, 225w adjustable resistor in series with my cell.  My electrolyte (KOH) is saturated to minimize the cell resistance and the resistor resistance is adjusted down until I got @ 12 amps.  I need to mount my resistor closer to my cell so I can use the heat off it to boost the cell efficiency.  My cell no longer heats up due to only having 2-4 volts being dropped across the cell. (depending on which plate config I have installed.)
I'm going to try connecting two 1 ohm resistors in parallel (.5 ohm @ 14.5 vdc = 29 amps) then with the cell resistance I should drop that to about 20 amps.  More I = more HHO in brute force applications.  I'll be soon building (I hope) a mark/space relay controller out of electronic turn signal flashers and 40 amp automotive relays.  My own hybrid pwm without the 555's and mosfets to smoke.  I need something that will handled the juice!  As far as my lpm with my current config?  I'm not sure, I haven't taken the time to make a measurement device, yet.  soon I will have to, my cell tests change weekly, I best know what is more efficient so I don't chase my tail.

[KilltheMessenger]

There is a company in Jupiter Florida who is in the busines of making HHO systems. The local Sheriff ordered two systems for use in official cars used by his men. If the HHO showed any sign of improving gas mileage, they would buy 1200 units more. The units cost $1200 each, and after a couple of months, they proved to not make any improvement in mileage of the test cars and removed the units that were installed and did not order anymore.
The best Youtube video you will find, is the one where it explains why HHO will not work, and who is behind the forces that keep selling all this crap to people like you and me. I have since scrapped my HHO unit, and keep it around for hte next 4th of July. I makes some great explosions if you fill quart juice bottle with HHO and put a fuse to them.  We actually filled a 13 gallon trash bag and put that video on Youtube. It makes an explosion that you can feel from 50 yards away.
That is it, I dont care who wants to call me an idiot, saying that I am just not smart enough to understand, or that I need 10 times more HHO to get it to work.
The facts are this, if it would work, GM or Ford would be putting it in a car by now. Thre is, in fact, a government study, where GE was paid a load of money to prove, or disprove the practical use for HHO. The study gives scientific facts that show all sorts of reasons that HHO is not a practical, or economical way to improve gas mileage. The only place Hydrogen will show-up in production vehicles in in the form of a fuel cell. In fact, all of the major auto makers have cars on theroad right now that have fuel cells in them. It ill be 5 or more years from now before they can build a car with a fuel cell that is cheap enough for the public to afford. The cars they have now , cost $75 thousand dollars to build. Anyone that says they are doing it, has a bridge to sell you too. I'm not saying thta you could not do it, but he effort and moneyit would cost, would cost you more than the what you are paying for gas. Search Ford for fuel cell vehicles, they are one company that has 7 such cars running on Hydrogen Fuel cells in Florida on the Hydrogen Highway, up near Orlando. It runs from Orlando to Tampa I believe.  Several states have hyrogen highways. This is the last time I will post on this site, I will unsubscribe from it as son as I finish this message. Please, don't kill the messenger.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Try this design, you will need to do the plate cleansing listed the panacea university hydroxy course.
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/15_plate_center_tap.pdf

Its stated by Bob Boyce to be the most efficient brute force design

[Randohr]

messenger,  Are you a mole?  To read your rants I'd swear you're on Haliburtan's payroll.  My last three out of four mpg tests indicated better than normal mpg using my system.  The one "bad" test was because I was enriching my mixture with my efie and leaning my mixture with a MAP adjuster simultaneously.  Had great power, but worse mpg's.  It's all about the electronics.  The little bit of HHO stabilizes the combustion chambers so the engine doesn't crap out.  How about giving up on the HHO stuff and try to develop Bedini styled battery chargers/regaugers.  They can greatly extend the run of battery powered cars.  ie   There's much good to be done, and a short time to do it.  Nay sayers keep on a walkin'