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42 watts?

Started by gazzzwp, June 12, 2008, 12:16:31 PM

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jibbguy

I'm not sure if anyone has replicated the Meyer system using so little total power; but theoretically it is possible to do so; once you accept the general theory of the electrolyzer with pulser and transformer output.

Because, capacitors in DC do not use much power, what little power a cap uses in a steady-state DC circuit actually comes from its leakage (usually uA's). However, since there is an "AC" component to the signal (meaning not bi-directional, but "changing state" differentially), there should be some small power used from X of C too. Since the tube electrodes and the water between them act as capacitors, theoretically it could use very low current indeed (although in tap water the "cap's" leakage current would prolly be a lot more than uA's lol).

Using a step-up transformer, 2 choke coils (one of them variable), and a rectifying diode on the output half of the circuit was designed to limit the current going to the electrodes dramatically. Instead of pulses with peaks of 15 or 25 volts, they are stepped-up to over 100V peak (up to 350, i believe Meyer once said). Also, the transformer acts as an "isolator" to the electronics part of the circuit; which should help to protect it and add to its longevity.

But note: Hooking your 'scope's ground to any point on the Output side of the circuit (secondary side of the transformer) could blow the scope (unless it is "isolated to ground" which most are not); because the ( - ) minus side is not at ground potential. This will make it tough to make an accurate "DC" measurment of  the waveform at the output, unless your scope allows "differential measurements" (using channel's A and B's positive probes together and no ground). Or simply use it in "AC" mode with no ground. I must have repaired a hundred scopes before from ppl who forgot about this ;)

If the thing was done right, the number or value of the current-amplifying power transistors could even be lessoned. But I do suspect that when doing this, an additional load should be added to the "input" (electronics) side of the circuit, tho... Maybe a '"power on" lightbulb and some resistance; in case the impedance of the output side goes into the dumper and the transformer acts like a short.

Now the interesting thing is, that DC (unidirectional) spike pulses are thought by many researchers to be what momentarilly "turns on" zero-point energy, allowing over-unity in a circuit. This principal is seen in the Tesla Switch and dozens of magnetic motor designs.

I have never fully made up my mind about the choke coils' importance to the current other than the variable coil acting like a pot to lower the total pulse voltage (Dr. Lindemann says they are there to lower current flow), but i suspect they are really calculated to set the desired impedance for the general F range he was using as seen on the secondary of the transformer... Something would have to; and it would be a lot easier to use a certain-size coil than to try and match the electrodes ;)

So either the stepped-up higher voltage pulses allowed less current/power draw to do the same work simply because of the laws of Capacitance (in this case, disassociating the water via "catastrophic failure" of the water dielectric); or ZPE was somehow tapped and subsequently kept the "regular" current draw down.

gazzzwp

I cannot say with 100% certainty, but I was of the impression that Ravzz did not use an alternator - I definitely could not see one in the youtube videos.

The only way to be sure is to build Dave Lawton's pwm circuit without alternator and see for myself - Surely Dave would not have issued that document (D14) unless he had validated it himself?

Gazza

Jokker

I guess the easiest way to test your system effectivity is to compare.

Just hook it to same power DC current and compare result visually.

But yea i guess measurements had  to be done right way.

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