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Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.

Started by ResinRat2, June 13, 2008, 11:28:43 AM

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unity2zero

Quote from: kavee on July 15, 2008, 06:17:48 AM
Sorry to disappoint you all, but we have evidence that the demonstrated car was not really running on the WES (the cell). The system was outputting only 300Ws of power (according to the internal communication) and connected to charge the batteries of the electric vehicle. So at the time of capturing Reuters video the vehicle is indeed running on batteries, which is not a proof of concept for the WES cell.

But their Cell seems to be producing electricity as they claimed. 300W with the displayed system. So any load under this rating can be run using the cell. In theory they could stack up more of such cells to drive the small car they have shown (electric motor is well over 3kW).

Independent verification of the cell is yet to be made, and the company is so strict on giving out information. Only thing is to wait and see some fellow researches reverse engineer the patent information and prove or disprove the claim.

From history, all "over unity" inventions or devices follows a similar path of event. One moment it drew a lot of excitement, and next moment it simply gone  :)

magdin

It is a little tiresome with all those claimed "perpetuum"s, cars driven by water and so on
without description of what the core in the concepts are.  What exactly do they do and
what is exactly their inputs and outputs?  Already a steam engine could be called an
engine driven by water - as also a water mill. 

The only true water driven engine I know, very close to a PM2,  is the "Drinking Bird"
concept.  That machine fulfills working freely in an overall equal  environment temperature.
If not water was consumed, it would be a true PM2.  Although not working in too humid or cold conditions - the main reason why it is not used as universal energy source today? 
8)

magdin

It is a little tiresome with all those claimed "perpetuum"s, cars driven by water and so on
without description of what the core in the concepts are.  What exactly do they do and
what is exactly their inputs and outputs?  Already a steam engine could be called an
engine driven by water - as also a water mill. 

The only true water driven engine I know, very close to a PM2,  is the "Drinking Bird"
concept.  That machine fulfills working freely in an overall equal  environment temperature.
If not water was consumed, it would be a true PM2.  Although not working in too humid or cold conditions - the main reason why it is not used as universal energy source today? 
8)

raburgeson

I got a feeling that rare Earth materials are being used in the generator. This group has tried so many different ways to crack water that's about the only thing left to try.

http://www.rechinaonline.com/english/

You can get the skinny here. Might have to transmute metal to get it in volume though. I read somewhere about manipulating neutrons in a lab to make gold. I see no reason why these materials couldn't become available the same way. Of course they don't figure on letting us know exactly how that process works. They want to protect their manipulated prices on materials. Probably got the process working off what John Hutchison was doing. They keep track of him so they can make sure he doesn't figure it out. If Los Alamos has analyzed the materials that have mutated in his lab though you can be sure they know how to do it. Thought it would be nice to remove a stumbling block before it gets pulled out that time. The governments have been jerking us around. They are holding back the, we don't have enough for production explanation if someone figures it out. Stainless is not the answer that's for sure. How many cells haven't been replicated so far? They might need coated with the right element.

mscoffman

Quote from: magdin on October 29, 2008, 09:35:44 AM
It is a little tiresome with all those claimed "perpetuum"s, cars driven by water and so on
without description of what the core in the concepts are.  What exactly do they do and
what is exactly their inputs and outputs?  Already a steam engine could be called an
engine driven by water - as also a water mill. 

The only true water driven engine I know, very close to a PM2,  is the "Drinking Bird"
concept.  That machine fulfills working freely in an overall equal  environment temperature.
If not water was consumed, it would be a true PM2.  Although not working in too humid or cold conditions - the main reason why it is not used as universal energy source today? 
8)

This is true, but is also becoming tedious to answer...CF cold fusion can supply
energy directly from deuterium hydrogen isotope atoms contained in natural
water...there is plenty of evidence that this actually occurs. So extra heat
energy is output and the input changes the water vapor slightly but in ways
that are re-equalized when exhaust water is vented back into to environment.
Natural deuterium could supply mankind's energy needs for millions of years.
The question is how to use it...In large fusion reactors like ITER or in
individual engines etc.

Actually evaporative water cooling is used as an energy adjunct in large
commercial air conditioning systems. It has a relatively low energy
density.

:S:MarkSCoffman