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Started by mbramble, June 18, 2008, 11:25:39 AM

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frog


Quote2. To run your car off HHO is a bigger task than a booster.

Not so, only HHO pressures between 5-15 psi are required (5 psi to idle, 15 psi acceleration). Watch videos by Roy McAllister and others on YouTube

Quote3. You best gains will be in if you use the highest grade fuel you can.

No Fossil Fuels are required to run with HHO systems. Recirculate your exhaust gasses, pcv gasses, HHO and h2o mist
then send into your engine. viola Dingle, Stan, GEET and many others systems are based on these simple systems. Fuel
VAPOR. Also research DIESEL ENGINES & WATER/Alcohol/Methanol INJECTION

Quotesome suggestions i have is get your cylinders and pistons ceramic coated and stainless steel valves if you plan on running HHO anywhere near 70%. this will stop cylinder rusting if your car sits there for to long.

Again, NOT REQUIRED. Check out some of the YouTube videos on engines running solely HHO, they're ULTRA CLEAN and cooler running, some of them have pulled old engines apart after running HHO after many years of FOSSIL fuel use only to find
their engine is almost NEW inside. Clean Valves, HEADS, everything.

QuoteIf you want to do more than just a small percentage of HHO production for your engine (more than 15%) upgrade your alternator. Funnily enough they do all have different outputs and there are upgrades out there usually in the Audio sound groups they want bigger alternators to power their speakers...This is not a self sufficient power for cars... YET... but it is getting there.

SEE response to #2

Again, this is not a call to arms, only trying to get everyone on the same damn page w/o all the fighting.
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Quote from: frog on December 15, 2008, 06:50:01 PM
Not so, only HHO pressures between 5-15 psi are required (5 psi to idle, 15 psi acceleration). Watch videos by Roy McAllister and others on YouTube
Unfortunately i believe as much in youtube videos as i do the tooth fairy. I'm not saying it is all rubbish but a lot of it is taken with bad footage at poor quality and doesn't show everything... Just IMO. There are some useful things on there though.

Quote from: frog on December 15, 2008, 06:50:01 PM
No Fossil Fuels are required to run with HHO systems. Recirculate your exhaust gasses, pcv gasses, HHO and h2o mist
then send into your engine. viola Dingle, Stan, GEET and many others systems are based on these simple systems. Fuel
VAPOR. Also research DIESEL ENGINES & WATER/Alcohol/Methanol INJECTION
Yes recycling your exhaust is a great way to improve efficiency. But i was answering his question about if a booster would improve his milage. Water power car = FANTASTIC... Water boosted car = better than straight gas...

Quote from: frog on December 15, 2008, 06:50:01 PM
Again, NOT REQUIRED. Check out some of the YouTube videos on engines running solely HHO, they're ULTRA CLEAN and cooler running, some of them have pulled old engines apart after running HHO after many years of FOSSIL fuel use only to find
their engine is almost NEW inside. Clean Valves, HEADS, everything.
I agree not required... if you don't ever let your car sit stagnant for any period of time... Personally i leave my car at home some holidays etc. But they cases where that sort of upgrade would be necessary is when your car may/will sit for lengthy periods of time between running it when the water vapour will settle on metal surfaces... BUT the steam from running it does make the inside VERY SHINY!!! also on a side note it has (unconfirmed on the net, but i have seen it) where the steam produced etc can smooth small burrs etc...

Quote from: frog on December 15, 2008, 06:50:01 PM
SEE response to #2
The upgrade would be if you already use a lot of that power supplied on sound systems or a not so efficient cell to produce the HHO.

Quote from: frog on December 15, 2008, 06:50:01 PM
Again, this is not a call to arms, only trying to get everyone on the same damn page w/o all the fighting.


I don't believe blind arguing is going to help anyone. there are people that want to see everyones point of view and idea incorporate them all into their own as they want to and encourage others... then there are people that will tell you your wrong because your not doing it like someone else. They are the ones that are unfortunate and i personally try to ignore their comments and look for anything that may be constructive in their posts. Frog you won't be attacked by me for stating something different, you may be in-ordained with questions because i want to know how you did it :P but that's only me being curious not being argumentative.

frog

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Unfortunately i believe as much in youtube videos as i do the tooth fairy. I'm not saying it is all rubbish but a lot of it is taken with bad footage at poor quality and doesn't show everything... Just IMO. There are some useful things on there though.

I agree, tons of useless info, but again even more USEFUL info even within these videos, I dissect everything.


QuoteYes recycling your exhaust is a great way to improve efficiency. But i was answering his question about if a booster would improve his milage. Water power car = FANTASTIC... Water boosted car = better than straight gas...

I got it .. :)


QuoteI agree not required... if you don't ever let your car sit stagnant for any period of time... Personally i leave my car at home some holidays etc. But they cases where that sort of upgrade would be necessary is when your car may/will sit for lengthy periods of time between running it when the water vapour will settle on metal surfaces... BUT the steam from running it does make the inside VERY SHINY!!! also on a side note it has (unconfirmed on the net, but i have seen it) where the steam produced etc can smooth small burrs etc...

This actually REDUCES friction created during the burn process, reducing HEAT, creating an increase in efficiency.

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The upgrade would be if you already use a lot of that power supplied on sound systems or a not so efficient cell to produce the HHO.

This is a non issue, as you are working with on-demand pressures, like your A/C system. Keep your "system" "charged" at a desirable pressure and the load is reduced.

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I don't believe blind arguing is going to help anyone. there are people that want to see everyones point of view and idea incorporate them all into their own as they want to and encourage others... then there are people that will tell you your wrong because your not doing it like someone else. They are the ones that are unfortunate and i personally try to ignore their comments and look for anything that may be constructive in their posts. Frog you won't be attacked by me for stating something different, you may be in-ordained with questions because i want to know how you did it :P but that's only me being curious not being argumentative.

I have posted my tests and setup. I don't have a vcam only stillcam. I'm using EGR, PCV, Hydrogen (from cell) and water/mist injection to run a generator (50 kW).


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frog


And the only reason I keep referring to YouTube videos is that I do not own a vcam. I tried to prove out these
videos and they do work. Most are pretty primal, requiring HUGE currents + chemicals to achieve results that
are equal to lower currents and NO chemicals.
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