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Petroleum: The Clean, Renewable Fuel for the Future

Started by enki09, June 22, 2008, 02:42:15 PM

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nightlife

We have other fuel alternatives that can and should be used. Bio Diesel and Ethanol. They both can be produced from things that are grown and that makes them both Renewable without using anything that we depend on for our own existence. Those who take oil from the ground needs to be stopped. They are jeopardizing our planets existence and it is done for one reason and that reason is big money greed.

Ethanol was used before gasoline and even today 100% Ethanol can be used to fuel all our gasoline consuming motors. We just have to make a few minor adjustments. The same for diesel. Car makers could and should be building vehicles that can use either Ethanol or Bio Diesel so that we don?t have to convert them. I think big money has something to do with them not doing this now.

Ethanol can be made for about $1.00 per gallon using crop waste and only $.10 if alcohol waste is used.

Bio Diesel can be made for about $1.25 per gallon using algae and $.80 using grease waste.

greendoor

I have mixed feeling about this.  Firstly - the oil & coal & uranium reserves in the ground are there for us to use.  We may as well use them.  We can put the crap back it came from - no harm done.  Radioactive materials are going to decay in their own time - I see no harm in speeding this up.  What use are oil or coal deposits in the ground?  Use them up cleanly, safely & wisely - no problem. 

Despite the inconvenient bullshit being promoted for political gain at the moment - man isn't destroying the ozone layer with CO2 as is suggested by morons.  CO2 is heavier than air - it doesn't even get off the ground for a start.  And the hole in the ozone layer is a function of gravity/magnetism and various in a cycle that goes on with or without us.  (Other gases - maybe - but not CO2). 

If you want more O2 in your air - the solution is to grow a LOT more green stuff that photosynthesis.  Actually - friggin rain forests contribute little to O2, because they aren't that green.  We could grow mountains of green algae - fed with raw sewage from our cities - and turn this back into diesel.  No worries.  Or just grow it to purify our air.  If we had free energy, we wouldn't even need sunlight. 

Anyway - the flip side.  The PROBLEM with petroleum products is that the corporate whores are just too greedy, and the politicians make far too much TAX.  The real issue here is FREEDOM - which of course, is no longer legal in the USA.




enki09

You can use the reformer process on just about any hudrocarbon such as alcohol, biodiesel or even sugar :)

Remember that, no matter what kind of hydrocarbon is used, up to 60% of the hydrogen fuel produced comes from the water NOT the hydrocarbon.

greendoor

And still have to pay the ransom money to Uncle Sam ...

I think steam engine technology with modern materials would be awesome.  You could burn literally anything that burns (junk mail, garbage..).  But the greenies would kill that idea.

I am really looking forward to electric vehicles.  Caterpillar and other heavy vehicle builders are making hybrid earthmovers now.  They use massive capacitors instead of batteries.  I really think capacitor storage is the ultimate answer for just about anything that needs power. 

But the power needs to come from somewhere ... I hope for a gravity wheel or something I can buy once and never have to pay tax on energy ever again ...

Is that every going to happen? ... not if certain people can help it ... it's WAR.

No really.




 

enki09

You are right, the power for electric vehicles has to come from somewhere so they just move the pollution to another source as long as grid power is used to charge them.