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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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I came across this?..

The mysterious gasoline engine that does not absorb the fuel

"................one other point that is of interest and which correlates with this file, a story told by John Searl to Rueben Joswiak when several of us went to the 94' Tesla Symposium in Colorado Springs. John told Rueben that an inventor in England had discovered a way to use a small quantity of gasoline in an engine evacuated of air, for years without 'consuming' the gasoline. As Rueben recounted it, the gasoline was sprayed as a fine mist into the combustion chamber, then subjected to a 30,000 volt spark. This would make the gasoline mist violently separate, causing the piston to be pushed away. The gas would then be collected and recombined to be reinjected into the chamber again and again. John said the inventor had been put under a secrecy order and eventually died in a mysterious fashion. We found this an intriguing idea at the time because if the gasoline had not been consumed by the presence of oxygen and other gases, then what would cause it to burn? So what would prevent it being reused as claimed? If Rogers machine works as he claims, despite the disbelief of many, then this might also work."

Petar

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Quote from: allcanadian on August 11, 2008, 12:39:16 PM
@SPP-48
Your circuit diagram is Tesla Patent 609250 which is quite different from conventional ignition circuits. Tesla utilizes a self induction coil (H) to charge capacitor (G) when contacts (a,b) are opened.What is not readily apparent is that when contacts (a,b) are closed there are two series circuits present---- one consisting of capacitor G, self inductance coil H and the source battery. The other series circuit consisting of capacitor G, primary F and contacts a,b. If the coil H were to have a high self inductance and the capacitor G a small capacity then G could be charged to very high voltages prior to discharging through primary F where it is stepped up yet again through K. We should also consider the difference between charging capacitor G with the source current alone versus an inductive discharge current from self inductance coil H. Tesla and T.H Moray made statements regarding the fact that if a resilient medium were disrupted in some way this medium could produce oscillations and we assumed they were making reference to qualities inherent in LC circuits. But if we considered capacitor G as having properties of oscillation within itself and without (external field interactions) as if an electrostatically charged drum skin were struck then discharged we could see these internal oscillations would travel within the discharging current and effect the qualities of the current .

Please elaborate.
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gotoluc

Quote from: allcanadian on August 11, 2008, 12:39:16 PM
@SPP-48
Your circuit diagram is Tesla Patent 609250 which is quite different from conventional ignition circuits. Tesla utilizes a self induction coil (H) to charge capacitor (G) when contacts (a,b) are opened.What is not readily apparent is that when contacts (a,b) are closed there are two series circuits present---- one consisting of capacitor G, self inductance coil H and the source battery. The other series circuit consisting of capacitor G, primary F and contacts a,b. If the coil H were to have a high self inductance and the capacitor G a small capacity then G could be charged to very high voltages prior to discharging through primary F where it is stepped up yet again through K. We should also consider the difference between charging capacitor G with the source current alone versus an inductive discharge current from self inductance coil H. Tesla and T.H Moray made statements regarding the fact that if a resilient medium were disrupted in some way this medium could produce oscillations and we assumed they were making reference to qualities inherent in LC circuits. But if we considered capacitor G as having properties of oscillation within itself and without (external field interactions) as if an electrostatically charged drum skin were struck then discharged we could see these internal oscillations would travel within the discharging current and effect the qualities of the current .

Thank you allcanadian for your time and explanation of what is going on in this circuit.

Would you know what the purpose of d, C , B , A and L (as circled below) are doing in this circuit ???

Thank you

Luc


gotoluc

@ everyone,

please have a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u0SZt0h43w

It looks to me like he is using the Water Power circuit. He is running Diesel Fuel in a Gas motor and claims no smoke output. Read his comment below.

Luc

In my first application on plasma spark ignition ; I'm using diesel fuel on gasoline genset by using plasma spark from 47 uF 250 Volt. It was still bad setup that I have, but good progress because no smoke out from exhaust. Later, I will introduce water in the carb.

allcanadian

@Grumpy
QuotePlease elaborate.
I take it you are refering to the qualities of oscillation?
If an electric current should act as an incompressible fluid as they say it does then an electric current would have similar properties to water in a pipe. If we push in one litre of water on one end then at the same instant one litre of water comes out the other end, we could call this a direct current as current flows in every space equally in one direction. Also if we were to place a rubber membrane across this water pipe we could say it could act like a capacitance in that it does not necessarily store a water current any more than a capacitor could store an electric current, the capacitor would store a quantity of the medium under consideration as pressure. In this case if an electric current were the medium considered we can see in AC,DC or pulsed DC all oscillations are limited to the movement of the current flow in every sense. If however in the water pipe analogy we used a very resilient membrane, the equivalent of a small capacitance it should be obvious that almost no current could pass, it should also be obvious that waves such as sound waves in the water would pass through the membrane quite easily as we are speaking of pressure waves of considerable frequency not current flow. We should note that Nicola Tesla also mentions the fact that his longintudinal waves are very similar to sound waves in the media ;)
Now what would happen if this small capacitance were to recieve a disturbance of the proper qualities such as a high potential inductive discharge in which an electrical pressure was stored in the capacitor and in the same instant a pressure wave travelled through the capacitor around the circuit and what would happen if this capacitor were discharged while these standing pressure waves were still active? It should be remembered that the pressure wave could be seen as compressions and expansions "within" the media and the current flow is the media itself in motion, as such if the media should move the pressure wave within must move with it and any velocity limitation applied to the media may not apply to the pressure wave as both are in motion. The pressure wave would also have very little or no resistance as resistance is only relative to motion of the media to be considered. I have every reason to believe we are dealing with the equivalent of electrical sound waves within the waves we know of.
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