URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gotoluc]

I have cleaned the image for you, no changes have been made just straight lines and neat coils

if you need any changes let me know... its pretty easy to remake, infact any hand drawn circuits you need "cleaning" (in this topic) I can do for you

Excellent work Aka Thank you for the clean the diagram. I will replace the one above with yours

Luc

Added: I have updated the 1st post page with the new Drawing Aka has provided and also posted the component description.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5024.msg108283.html#msg108283

[gotoluc]

hi Luc

...apologies - when i posted my schematic yesterday (before your existing circuit was posted just above), i imagined that you were charging your 6u8F cap with the relay, then switching that cap into the auto-coil with a separate switch

as you're using a SPDT to do all the switching (and now i see why your new thread today is asking for a SS SPDT!) my schematic doesn't match your circuit arrangement - your auto-coil would prevent the 6u8F from charging in my schematic, if there's no second switch

so - if you keep to one SPDT switch (either mechanical or SS) your bridge to cap inductor has to be on the bridge side of the switch as you have it now and any protection diode would have to be in parallel with the inductor (+ve towards bridge) to help preserve the relay switch contacts - no reclaim of flyback energy with this arrangement

if you do decide to use Tr or MOSFET switching then you don't need to have this SPDT arrangement - you can have one switch between bridge & inductor - and the other switch between 6u8F cap & auto-coil

so then you get to add D2, as in my schematic, before the inductor to reclaim flyback energy

all the best
sandy
Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

Hi Sandy, now I understand the communication differences I am not stuck to the SPDT switch circuit. I'll try anything that my simple electronics understanding can handle

Did you see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7QmzePtUeU 
It is a solid state replication with scope shots made by user smw1998a of the Energetic Forum topic: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2242-water-sparkplug.html

Luc

[nul-points]

hi Luc

thanks for the heads up on those vids - very interesting info from the scope trace of the capacitor


from this - and the vid of the spark with/without HV diodes & then also with/without water it looks to me at the moment like the increased strength of the spark is related mainly to the decrease in discharge time

scope trace on the cap doesn't show any evidence of extra energy introduced by diodes or water - just reduced discharge time

no scope traces available from auto-coil/spark gap so far - it's possible there could still be extra anomalous energy shown - but the decrease in discharge time is quite dramatic


so - i would guess that we're seeing something like Tesla observed in his energetic discharges: a strong 'radiant' event magnified by reducing the spark discharge time - same Energy in less Time = higher Power

at a guess, i would say it's possible that the high-voltage diode(s) intantaneously pre-biases the spark-gap from the voltage at top of the auto-coil primary, whilst the current builds up in the auto-coil primary (a relatively 'slow' operation, electrically speaking)

this maybe conditions the air in the gap to make it more susceptible to the discharge (as happens in a cloud-to-ground lightning strike) - lowering the air-path impedance somewhat?

then when the auto-coil transformer action has built up in the secondary, the air-gap provides a better conductance - higher current - faster discharge - the diodes need to be HV because there is now a much higher reverse voltage between top of secondary & top of primary

any other means of lowering that discharge path impedance (during the strike) is only going to increase the current / discharge rate - could water vapour be providing that action?

seems possible that the fine water mist droplets act as some kind of 'stepping stone' to divide the main spark gaps into lots of shorter spark gaps - water droplets now in a pre-biased polarised field?

if you have too much water then the system discharges through a continous water path directly & more 'gently' - you don't get the air rupture & breakdown effect of a spark gap - but the finer 'droplet - gap - droplet - gap' arrangement can act like a trigger condition for a higher power discharge - almost like a chain-reaction?

powerful enough now to start doing funky things with the composition of the water in the droplets, which now form part of the current path?  maybe

comments, anyone?

all the best
sandy

PS i'll try & get back to you later about separating the switching
Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

[turbo]

Okay so i was trying to see the effect when using vacuum tubes and all the meters go funky.
I charged a 470u to 500 volts and discharged it thrue my hand...

M.

[ramset]

Marco OUCH!! not good   Chet