URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[Chris31]

Hi zzzz,

you know what they say... it's always quiet before a major storm

Not to worry! it will be busy soon enough

Luc

You have surprises for us then?

[gotoluc]

You have surprises for us then?

Hi Chris,

I'm hoping this new research topic I started:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6225.0  will come back and help power this topic

Luc

[djzissis]

Luc I am jealous!! 

I have also started a topic which concerns to ultrasonic humidifiers and if we can make one ourselves.

topic's adress: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6279.0




zis....

[gmeast]

Hi Chris,

I'm hoping this new research topic I started:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6225.0  will come back and help power this topic

Luc

Hi Luc,

I've pull the Bug's engine because one of the cast magnesium tabe that hold the oil cooler to the block busted and I have an enormous oil leak.  I'm doing surgery ... glad I have a machine shop.

I'm also building a new oscillator that has lower energy quiescence that should make folks happier.  Someone from here or Energetic posted it.

I'm going to open one of the heat boxes and wrap the some copper tubing around the exhaust line to preheat the steam water.  on Energetic I posted one possible explanation for my good mileage.  Here it is:

"I recuperate waste heat by turning water into steam. By doing this, I avoid the conversion penalty associated with the 'heat of fusion' ... that is the heat a substance, in this case water, absorbs before it changes state, in this case water to steam. This heat energy can't be recovered with a condenser ... it is therefore a penalty ... the 'steam penalty'. But I do this external to the process with (otherwise) waste heat. With the steam (gas) combined with the air and fuel, ignition occurs (thanks to the intense plasma spark) and the combustion heats up 'both' the steam and the air, but the steam is like an inert component that can absorb allot of energy. So it does and generates pressure in exchange. The pressure from both the air/fuel and the steam is about the same as it would be by just the air/fuel itself because it at a lower temperature. This is where the increase in thermal efficiency comes in ... it is a system thing:
The pressure ratio (compression ratio) is the same. The efficiency of the energy extraction (power stroke) is thus the same (p1-p2)/p1 ... if the ending pressure p2 is much, much less than the starting pressure p1, then the efficiency is high (that's why a high compression engine is efficient). The same is said for temperature (t1-t2)/t1. But what does this do for us? Well - the engine runs cooler with more energy being converted to output power because FAR, FAR less heat is being rejected from cooling the engine.

In my tests, after the engine warms up, you can place any cold plate at the exhaust and the condensation is about 3 - 4 times the amount of water as usual. The EGT is also cooler by at least 200 Deg F. But you don't get consistent running unless you use a plasma spark. I can run so much water (in the form of steam) that the normal spark will misfire. There is some inherent fuel/air leaning going on here also. If I aspirate the steam after the venturi, then the fuel/air ratio won't be affected ...this is my next step. BUT YOU NEED A PLASMA SPARK TO DO THIS."

Greg

[gotoluc]

Luc I am jealous!! 

I have also started a topic which concerns to ultrasonic humidifiers and if we can make one ourselves.

topic's adress: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6279.0

zis....

Hi zis,

I maybe wrong but I think using steam or super heated steam should theoretically work better with the Plasma spark as waters dialectic properties change with temperature. For those who have experimented with HHO electrolyzer cells will tell you the cell behaves much different when it is hot (more current can go through) and can quickly get out of control if the temperature keeps rising.

Greg is also reporting very good results using steam vapor in his engine.

The other factor to consider is that it is at no cost of energy to create steam in a combustion engine. As a matter a fact the electric radiator fan would work less if you were extracting steam off the engine and should show some power savings there. Using ultrasonic foggers would add energy consumption since they use much current for the work they do.

Nothing wrong with experimenting with them and I'm looking forward to your findings.

Thanks for your research time and sharing since it is all these details that will pave the better path.

Luc