URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[demios]

Now, I have to tell you that my knowledge of electronics is pathetic :rofl: but, I think the principle is sound. So, here's the circuit I "envisioned" that's supposed to increase the 13.5VAC (varies between 13.5VAC and 14.5VAC) off of the car alternator and send it through an isolation transformer (40x) that is connected to the voltage quadrupler and then to the dump capacitor rated at 3000V 680pF (3.06m Joules). The dump cap is not in the diagram:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/Voltage_quadrupler.svg

Output ranges:

13.5V x 40 x 4 = 2160VDC
14.5V x 40 x 4 = 2320VDC

As I read here: http://www.kronjaeger.com/hv/hv/src/mul/ we have to use capacitors and diodes that are rated DOUBLE in comparison to input voltage (13.5/14.5 x 40 = 540VDC / 580VDC). That means (just to be sure) 1500V rated caps and diodes for quadrupler construction. I also read that these voltage multipliers can be found in old BW TVs, you can also read that here (under "bridge circuit") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_doubler.

So, my question is, will this aid us in creating plasma spark (piggyback the existing spark, of course)?

Thanks for your effort guys!

[gotoluc]

Now, I have to tell you that my knowledge of electronics is pathetic :rofl: but, I think the principle is sound. So, here's the circuit I "envisioned" that's supposed to increase the 13.5VAC (varies between 13.5VAC and 14.5VAC) off of the car alternator and send it through an isolation transformer (40x) that is connected to the voltage quadrupler and then to the dump capacitor rated at 3000V 680pF (3.06m Joules). The dump cap is not in the diagram:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/Voltage_quadrupler.svg

Output ranges:

13.5V x 40 x 4 = 2160VDC
14.5V x 40 x 4 = 2320VDC

As I read here: http://www.kronjaeger.com/hv/hv/src/mul/ we have to use capacitors and diodes that are rated DOUBLE in comparison to input voltage (13.5/14.5 x 40 = 540VDC / 580VDC). That means (just to be sure) 1500V rated caps and diodes for quadrupler construction. I also read that these voltage multipliers can be found in old BW TVs, you can also read that here (under "bridge circuit") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_doubler.

So, my question is, will this aid us in creating plasma spark (piggyback the existing spark, of course)?

Thanks for your effort guys!

Hi demios,

great post

This should work and save the cost and energy losses of an inverter. Using the AC of the alternator to feed a step up transformer is something that was suggested before but looks like no one tried it.

This would be the way I would do it on a car as it would supply more voltage and power as the engine revs and make more plasma power that is needed. I think this is the ideal combination as it makes power as needed.

I hope you build it

Thanks for sharing.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Hi all,

Sorry for all of the posts ... can't help it ... I got so excited about the plasma arc-induced D.I. Water electrolysis and ensuing hydrogen-oxygen reaction I put together a short video compilation of the clearest events to share.

It's not big enough to waste on YouTube so you can douwnload it or open it.  It was made with Movie Maker in XP.  It's very generic but much higher quality than gets rendered on YouTube.

http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/VW/vexus_sequence.wmv

Thanks.  Peace,

Greg

Another great job Greg

Thank for taking the time to do this and also think of hosting it so we get to download it directly without quality loss.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[demios]

Thank you for kind words Luc! This means I do understand something, which is great (I thought I'll never learn anything related to electronics) 

I actually do intend to build it, since parts are readily available and cheap. The HV diodes and caps are around 6 euros all together, and transformer shouldn't be more than 10-15 euros. The spark plugs I use are 11 euros (4 of them), so experimenting should be super cheap and fun I involved local Peugeot club into building HHO generators and plasma spark systems. They seem very eager to pursue this. Especially baring in mind that some of them drag race (street drag - 402).

As soon as weather turns nicer (in a few days) I'll go and by the goods!

Cheers !!!

[higherpoweredh2o]

I have been following this thread for a while now and like what I see. As a race engine builder I fully understand the importance and benefit of super high powered ignition systems. I am especially interested in gmeast testing on the vw.

For a little backgound on me I am currently searching for truth in the hydroxy world. There is alot of myth and little hardcore fact with this crowd. The work needs to be done and I know 100% there is benefits of running hho with gasoline. But I am also finding negatives.

The ICE engine has made no real advances in technology in over 100 years. We have made significant changes to fuel and ignition control to increase eff slightly but no drastic changes have been made in application of gasoline.  An ICE is just that. It requiress alot of ignition advance to start vaporizing our liquid fuel in the combustion chamber, the advance starts the fire in order to have the air fuel mixture to its rapid combustion ( explosion)  state at the downward powerstroke. We all know heat expands and therfor expands that small volume of liquid gas into a vapor state so that rapid combustion can occure.  Modern engines burn 95-97 % of the fuel put in them. The problem is thermally they are eff heaters. The best of the best are only 20% eff in turning that fuel into kinetic energy. the other 80 % is friction loss 5% and heat.

I am very excited at what gmeast has done with lean mixtures and water vapor. The timing at 5 deg atdc shows he is transforming the ICE to an IEE internal explosion engine.   The rapid combustion or explosion is where our power comes from. I am seeing this with hydroxy also. I am finishing an cold vapor system that will create 6 LPH of cold water vapor to inject in an engine. It will be used in conjunction of plasma ,hho and  stamd alone fuel management.

I did some emissions testing earlier this week and found hho to reduce emissions at certain loads and also increase them at different loads. I am relating this to peak combustion temps and raw fuel avail. Most of the hype on hho is that it almost eliminates emissions. Not true. So this research is still much needed.


Sorry for the long post But I wanted to start getting involved with plasma experiments and data exchange. I do have a couple questions.


GMeast::

How is cylinderhead temp differ form stock with your current set up

Do you run an egt gauge?

have you done any emissions tests.  This will show if nox goes up from flame temp. generally nox increases with lean mixtures. But the vapor you introduce can control it. I was curious to if you have emissions test or been able to measure temp of flame in cylinder.


how does the seat of the pants feel power wise......?


If any questions come up please post. I am very open and will answer all questions. Thanks for reading.