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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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gmeast

Quote from: djzissis on October 15, 2008, 12:24:27 PM
Hi Greg

As you said, as everyone uses it, 5408 might be ok. If not, they are cheap, so nothing to matter for if they blow up....!!

Anyway I asked for prices:
100x 1N5408 diodes
A couple of 10μF capacitors, two 22μF, two 47μF and two 470μF
For the resistor, I plan to use a light bulb, or a wall potentiometer. They are at least 60W
An 150VA 1:1 isolation transformer
A Full Wave Bridge Rectifier 400V 10A
12VDC to 220VAC inverter, quite cheap found here -->  "Ebay's Link"  (cost+shipping to Greece = 36$)

These are the basics for now. The others are easy to find.

Btw I've seen 'jstadwater' 's replication, and really liked it. Very stable circuit, and very nice videos, too!!!!

More updates to come....

Zissis
"Here is my blog"



Hi Zis,

You need to do a little research on the isolation transformer.  The one I have specifically says 115VAC INPUT and 115VAC OUTPUT, 150 VA.  So you might try and determine if that will work at 230VAC.  Usually they are matched for 60Hz,  VAC and VA.

Greg

scalar wave

Greg,

have you tried spraying salt water on the plasma spark?

Supposed to be an increase in power output and won't freeze on the low temperature climates if used as a fuel. 

The plasma spark is theorized to release a little Hydrogen, and Oxygen and also combust it to give a little more heat and energy to the process.  Would be interested to see if that's true.

Also, folks are looking for isolation transformers, and I've seen you can make one with two MOT (Microwave Oven Transformers, back to back).  Connect the 110 to primary, connect secondaries together, and draw off the power from the 2nd MOT primary; I guess you could hook up 110 to secondary, then link primaries, and then draw off of the second MOT secondary, links are via the EM field.

Anyway just a thought.  I've been a Joe Cell a holic and am now looking at this plasma spark process.  I'm looking at the similar characteristics of the processes, sometimes just reverse processes.

Try the salt water spray on a video please. 

Thanks

Mike

gotoluc

Quote from: gmeast on October 15, 2008, 05:08:50 PM
Hi Zis,

You need to do a little research on the isolation transformer.  The one I have specifically says 115VAC INPUT and 115VAC OUTPUT, 150 VA.  So you might try and determine if that will work at 230VAC.  Usually they are matched for 60Hz,  VAC and VA.

Greg

Hi Zis,

Greg is right! a 115v transformer will not work efficiently if you put 220v in, the coil does not have enough winding and will act much like a short. I know because I tried it. I have a 220v inverter and I won two 115v/115v 1:1 isolation transformer on eBay for $1. each. However it works if I use both and wire each side in series. It also give a 115v center tap.

It maybe be cheaper to find two identical 220v MOT from a repair shop or city dump. You lightly cut the welds on each sides to open them up and take out the inductors and combine both primaries in one and re weld.

Luc

gotoluc

Quote from: Loner on October 15, 2008, 04:17:39 PM
I Just want to inject a question, to see if any good ideas are out there.

Plasma Arc, wonderful ckt, replicated and adjusted.  This was all easy.

NOW.  The modern ignition coil actually has no ground connection to the HV side of
the coil.  The Two wires from that side of the transformer are both connected to plugs.
The basic concept has been around a while, and the problem that arises is:  One plug
will be positive and the other negative.  Distributer Ign is fine.  If no Dist., I assume a
dual, half wave rect. on the inverter is the only way to go.  (OR 2 inverters, but naaaa.)

This means that the diodes are reversed on the off set of plugs and I am wondering if
anyone else has started testing this?

By the way, running a basic B&S ICE isn't as hard as it seems.  I'm about to try without
the Cell, just opening the main jet and feeding water.  If it works, I'll start posting the
garbage ckts I'm using, but as I want to get to modern engines, this coil polarity has me
wondering.  (If it's just a case of Plug deposits, then I'll mig a ball of stainless onto the
center electrode, but I've already welded a crosswire, so I wanted to use the premade plugs
before making them different.

Any Suggestions?  Any testing done?  I'll only post my positive results so as to not clog
this thread up with my junk.  (I'm on sabatical from TPU work, and already have a modified
B&S for Hydroxy operation.  Now trying to run it on Water.  If that works, this coil problem
will be the next hurdle for more modern engines without distributers.  I could eliminate the
problem by grounding One plug wire and doubling the number of coils, but that is the hard
way out and I would like to avoid it if possible.  The standard drive CKt probably couldn't drive
two coils, etc.  Want to stay as stock as possible.)


Hi Loner,

We have not tested much on modern engines, it is just starting and Greg's new simple VexUs circuit has just been released. So we need testers. Please replicate and post your findings

@everyone: please note that we are not able to run a combustion engine on water alone is using these circuits. However we are noticing RPM gain and easy cold start by using the plasma spark and we could start testing with emulsifying small amounts of water in the carburetor via a cold fog humidifier or ultrasonic pound misters or just dripping water in a tube warped around the exhaust to crate water vapor and lead it in the intake.

Thanks

Luc

Groundloop

@Loner,

>>Said:
>>The modern ignition coil actually has no ground connection to the HV side of the coil.

Can you post a simple drawing on how modern cars ignition is made?

As I understand you, there is two spark plugs at the high side of the coil.
Is there two coils to get 4 spark plugs going?

Groundloop.