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Water for fuel - diesel

Started by nightlife, June 30, 2008, 01:48:44 AM

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resonanceman

Quote from: nightlife on June 30, 2008, 02:53:53 AM
One problem I can foresee is that the injectors need to have the water supply stopped at the time off shut down to keep them from filling up the cylinders with water and the plasma sparks have to continue until the water is all gone from the cylinders.


One possible  solution  to this  is  to  just not  shut  down . ....... except  for  repairs .


 

for  cars and  trucks  one of the bigger problems  I see if freezing  in the winter . 

The  fuel  tank  could  be insulated .......and  if the exhaust  goes  through it  ........ threre might  be enough heat  from the engine to keep  if from freezing . ............but   there is still the loose hoses  going to the   injectors  and    the  fuel line . 
Enclosing  the  entire engine   might be a possibility .....but  difficult because  of  space limitations . 

The  fuel  line could  be insulated   and  also have a heat pipe  running  right next to it  ( inside the insulation )   ......... that way     the fuel line  would not  freeze   until  the engine  and  fuel  tank  were close to freezing .


gary

nightlife

Gary,
QuoteDo  you have any doubts?

That I do and it is mainly to do with the fact that water and diesel engines do not mix well. LOL

QuoteI don't  have much money  to spend on it at this time .......but I have lots of ideas .

I don't believe any money will be needed. I may have to buy a few minor things needed for fabricating but I don't see them costing more then I can afford at this time. I believe I have everything that is needed and if I don?t, I have a friend that should.

Yours and everyone else?s ideas are the most needed things right now so by all means, please submit all the ideas you can think of.

nightlife

Gary,
QuoteI agree for the most part .........

However .........the timing  has to be right .

If you  try to   jump into  business to soon ..........before the  technology is known  by enough people  you  might  end up  disappeared  .

I agree and that?s why I think that after we are able to design it, we should dump it all at once all over the world. We can do so by contacting diesel repair shops and trucking company's. Truckers are the best messengers. Tell one trucker and the rest will know within a couple weeks.

I personally could care less if I made a dime. We all would benefit from it.

resonanceman

Quote from: nightlife on June 30, 2008, 03:39:23 AM
Diesel injectors are not electronic, they are controlled by pressure. It takes a certain pressure to open the injector and the pressure controls the amount sprayed. The more pressure applied = the more fuel that is injected. The pressure is controlled by the throttle. They should be easy to modify if even needed at all. It all just depends on what we find out in our experiments.

I will post pictures of some injector pumps I have tomorrow.

I would  think that up to a point   adding  more current  will  raise  the power  output .

Also  adding more  water  should  raise the power output ....... adding more water may make it possible to  add more current . 

I am not  sure  how  the injectors   are hooked  up ..........but   if  we find we need  alot more water than  we can get  from  unmodified  injectors  it might  work  to add another " bank " of injectors in  the intake ,...........mist  should  work    just as good as   anything else ........  as long as  we are getting  good  plasma in the cylinder .   


A problem  with '"  cloning "  the injectors  might  be  placing  them in the right locations .........  it would not  be  good to   fire  the  injector into  an intake  with   the valve closed .   ( puddles in the intake  are a NO NO  .)



gary   


resonanceman

Quote from: nightlife on June 30, 2008, 04:01:02 AM
Gary,
I agree and that?s why I think that after we are able to design it, we should dump it all at once all over the world. We can do so by contacting diesel repair shops and trucking company's. Truckers are the best messengers. Tell one trucker and the rest will know within a couple weeks.

I personally could care less if I made a dime. We all would benefit from it.



Good plan

:)

ALot of  truckers  are  harder  to scare  than  other people may  be . 
For some of them it would make  their  day if the men in black showed  up .


gary