Water for fuel - diesel

[nightlife]

Gary,

for  cars and  trucks  one of the bigger problems  I see if freezing  in the winter .

Me and my wife was talking about that yesterday. We think that heating elements could be placed in the tanks as well as wrapped around the lines. Most diesel engines are already equipped with block warmers and all engines could be fitted with them if they don?t. They install in the place of a engines freeze plug. The block warmer can be wired in with the others and plugged in at night. They could also be wired in to the battery system to be used when they are on the road.

[resonanceman]

I have been  thinking about    adding a mist  into  intake  .

If  we just injected water  and   hit it  with  elecricity    the  bang is  very quick .......  and  all that is left  once  the  injector   stops   spraying  is for the  contents of the  cylinder   to mix . 

If   there was a heavy load  of water already in the air  in the cylinder  we may  get something  that  behaves  similar to a flame  front in normal  combustion .   

If we  could  do this there would be much less need to  change the timing.


gary 

[send_to_nice]

I think  one  kind  that you didn't mention is very important .    Stationary  diesel  generators 

Wouldn't  it be nice to get off the grid  ?

Good point, and they'd love you in the islands for making a point like this. That's how many smaller islands get the majority of their power - large diesel power stations.

[nightlife]

Gary, you maybe on to something and it would take some experimenting to see. I am wondering how the moisture in the air is going to affect things. Dry days opposed to rainy days. There is much to learn.

I am getting excited and I cant wait to get started.

[yaz]

Great thread! This really jogged my memory. I remember reading somewhere (aprox. 6 years ago) on the web, that back in early days of diesel engines, someone was cleaning and/or spraying down a hot engine with water. The guy had to crank the engines flywheel to get some of the water out that accidently got into the intake and the motor suddenly started up and was running!

The things that stand out in my mind from that article was that the engine had to be at operating temperature (hot) and the water had to be a minimum of 75 F.  As long as those 2 conditions are met they said that a diesel engine would run just on water alone.
I was going to try the experiment back when I first read about it but I had no access to a diesel.  Just recently in my town they sell 18 HP diesel motors for $800 but they're the chinese crap! (no thanks)

If anyones going to try it, I would get the engine running up to operating temp, get a spray bottle, fill it with boiling water and mist it into the intake as you shut the fuel supply off. Careful! Don't want to hydro lock the engine!  Damm I sure wish I could find that article!!

A friend of mine said that water might ruin the diesel fuel pump because the actual fuel lubricates the pump. Is this true? 
Then maybe make an adapter and mount a regular auto fuel injector to mist water into the engines intake manifold?

Now, with that plasma set up, and the compression of a diesel I would LOVE to see that sucker rev up!!!!  I'll keep my eye open for an old diesel car and try some experiments too!
All the best everyone!