Water for fuel - diesel

[resonanceman]

This is gonna be a great thread, exactly what I was looking for.  If you go the route of just HHO, I think the form of hydrogen produced, parahydrogen, would be better for a diesel, since it is slower burning then the other form?   Ironhead on this site is the expert on this, has a thread for it called "highvoltage HHO"  I was trying to build my test cell but am held up at the material to hold my plates.  I having trouble finding a way to hold the plates close enough together with the acrylic.  I dont have a machine shop to groove it, but was going to order 1/16" thick acrylic to use between.  I have a vw tdi motor i want to boost with the hho.  Also, if you inject the hho after the sensor, isnt it tru the computer will not know it is there, thereby not changing the current fuel rate?  (i dont have an O2 sensor). 
I would love to see all water, no diesel fuel needed.  But is the compression to high for that? (19.5 to 1 in mine)  I look forward to the progress!!!

Thanks,
Mark

Mark

I don't think  anyone here is  working at  powering a diesel  with  a HHO  generator yet .........This is  the place to give it a try though .

A way to hold the plates  apart  that I have seen used  is  getting  plastic  wire ties .... they  come in quite a few  sizes ........one is  bound to  be close to the right  thickness .......   


gary

[nightlife]

 It seams, after reading the following pdf file, that when the water is introduced to plasma, it is creating a "cold" fog explosion. This means there is no heat and therefore would not need to be preheated to get the results.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/EBFpSJS-sMYpa8Cek1PzGHH5WYgLGp5EbYiB0zypKT-db8__30ijrUD_Ai48FWCEJ0HNPnXiasFyEo1ipRExiqkMdXwFzKRoHls/Graneau%20experiments.pdf

[broli]

I've never seen the following report.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDtCkLxQd

Was this generally known her that Stanley Meyer just used a spark plug to convert a car to run on water. This is news to me seeing people are investigating producing hydrogen on demand using the water fuel cell. Could it just be the same effect that is starting to buzz around here?

[resonanceman]

ALL a diesel injector pump is like a swiss watch  lubrication will be an issue  However replacing the glow plug with the new plasma firestorm plug might be very interesting   Chet

Chet

I don't  have any  experience  with   injectors 

I had to look one up .........

http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/jag/vw/engine/fi/injpump.html

From  what I  see here  it looks to me like   it will  probably work .

The  biggest  question  deals  with  corrosion .     If  the  injector  is made with corrosion  resistant  metals   it should last quite a while .   

I do agree that it  will not last as long as it would using oil .    Water is not a very good lubricant compared  to oil .......but it  does  have some  lubricating  properties .
Brass  and  stainless  can  work together  for a very long time  with  water as  the lube .    as long as   loading  is kept low .




The  possability  of using  a  firestorm plug is interesting   
I can imagine  using a  firestorm plug  and adding  an ingnition  system  and running it in " mixed mode "
The  injector would still  be  needed  for   fuel delivery .....or else we are back to   the same problem that HHO  has ..........we  have no quick  control

gary

[resonanceman]

Nightlife  and  Broli

I tried to use  your links but wasn't able to open either of them .

gary