Water for fuel - diesel

[nightlife]

 After reviewing some things today, I think it may be best to inject the water, as a mist, into the intake. As for the injectors, I feel they should be replaced with plasma emitting plugs. The Detroit diesel would not work for this unless the heads were removed and modified to accept plugs.

If we find that they run by just emitting water after they are warmed up and the fuel is shut off, then the Detroit diesel can still be used.

As for running water thru the injector pump, I would have to agree that it would not be a good idea do to the cost of injector pumps. If we find that just by emitting water they still run, I would suggest that we replace the injectors with gasoline emitting fuel injectors.

Regardless on how we do this, I would suggest not using the injector pumps for pumping the water to the injectors.

I did take some pictures of some of my own diesel motors today and I will post them later. They consist of a 6.9 and a 7.3 IHC, a 6.5 GM, 5.9 Cummins and a 8.2 Detroit. 

[Mark69]

@ all,

Guys, you should be able to replace the glow plugs with the spark plugs, no need to do that through the injectors.  Also, water will ruin the high pressure injector pump, as it uses the diesel fuel to lubricate it.  The only way you might be able to run water through it is with a water soluble lubricant.  In a book I have, VW converted a TDI motor to run on straight alcohol.  They reduced the compression some, replaced the glow plugs with spark plugs and added an ignition system.  Also, they added a simple fuel pump to replace the high pressure injector pump then added a fuel injection system.  They also were able to get a 22% improvement in economy with that motor running on straight alcohol.  To improve mileage even more, you could use a fuel vaporizer and inject vaporous alcohol into the air stream to improve mileage even more  (I realize this isnt an alcohol thread, sorry).  Now from that Stan Meyer video, he says that "processed" water is run right to his injector spark plug where it hits a very high frequency that changes it to the gas.  Now, it is proven that the frequency of 42.7122 KHZ will fracture the water.  I believe looking at that special injector Stan has, it looks like a mini version of his tube inside a tube design.  My guess he gets the inner tube to vibrate and produce that frequency.  Hope this helps.

Mark

[resonanceman]

Chet

What you say is valid but but would we not be better served by using the existing components where ever we can.

One option to the lubrication issue I can think of can be found here
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blteflon.htm

The question here is can it be mixed with H20 or would it need to be injected from another source, and will it cause a problem during combustion.

P.S. your right about the Detroit diesel's

Be well
Tinker 

I agree that teflon  would help with the  lubrication and   corrosion  problems

I  did a  search and  looked around for about 45 min .......I didn't find anything  that looks good yet .
Most of the  products  that  state that they  contain teflon really have very little of it . 

I will  look some more later .
The serious   dry  teflon  lubes  can be  cured  ...... the  Dupont  site  says 300 to 500 degrees .

I  would not    try to add it to  the water ........

I have a prosess  that I use on my skates that  I think would work well for  a  dry teflon  lube .    I use  white lightning on my skates .......a wax based lube .
I clean  the bearings ...... and lube them up .........then  put  them  together and   skate for an  hour or so .............the  lube needs to be dry  before  I let them set .........if  they are not quite  dry .  they tend to gum  up  the next time i skate .   

If I keep them  moving  until they are dry   they  spin  a very long time  .........and stay clean for months .



gary

[Mark69]

Hi All,

Found a couple of other items that may help here.  For Hydrogen to auto ignite, you will need a compression ratio of over 28 to 1.
Another thing, if you can get the temperature of the water to 2730C, the water will decompose into hydrogen and oxygen. 

Mark

[pese]

[quote 
This thread will be focusing on using 100% water as fuel for diesel engines. I will be referring to water as HHO in my comments. If you all prefer, I could just say water but it?s the HHO in the water that makes this all possible.
[/quote]

university cologne have tested up to 50% water added to diesel.
and this was working without problems.
BUT nobody cant explaine this experiences.  .

I read in 2002 that the first explosion motor (for cars) was made as PUREwater fuel motor.(1880? arround)
This motor was running proper..
The business man that have give the money for this exploration (invention)
have ask  that this working item must now reconstruct same
motor now for mineral oil products as fuel.

This "idea" shown me very seriosly and normally !
Earning money is  the business!

The information was in 2002 on an webside from australia or new zealand. 
and e-book or even CD was offered at 12$.
(sorry i have not buy - PayPal was unknow this time)

Possibly some one have this. and send an copy

My answerback page: http://beam.to/zpe

Gustav Pese