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Hubbard coil

Started by EMdevices, July 01, 2008, 05:03:36 PM

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Grumpy

I'd bet that the Cook coils are low power -  ;)

Hubbard device = much more power

Quote from: wattsup on July 17, 2008, 09:34:17 AM
I don't think the center coil and the outer primary are connected in parallel as shown in Grumpy's diagram as there would be no advantage to this.

rotating magnetic field

This device could be made in many many ways.

Make it like I said to make it and stop screwing around with it.  Pulsing the center at the same time as the the outer coil is required.  This acauses the squeeze and the divergence across the outer coils - this is the red arrow in my diagram and is the same for every outer coil.  Call it a dipole if it helps you sleep at night.

Forget rotating magnetic fields - this is a little different and not hindered by laws that hinder magnetic fields.

All devices can be made several ways but they all have laws or rules that must be adheared to.

Now get to winding.
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z.monkey

Howdy EMDevices,

So are you starting to see how the magnetic forces spins around the central core?  Spin isn't the right word maybe.  Roll might be a better term.  I have been thinking that this is like an electrical helical screw pump, otherwise known as a supercharger.  There is an 90 degree phase difference between the points where each core is connected.  Then also there is the propagation of the wave through each coil.  Turn the timebase of your mental oscilloscope down and watch the wave propagate down each coil and into the next coil, ad infinitum.  Watch the wave mix perfectly at the one cycle point (4 coils down).  Watch the compound/complex interaction that the peripheral coils have on the central coil while their phased charges are rolling around it.  This device is supergenious, far beyond Hubbard.

I have a theory, none of you will like it.  Hubbard supposedly received this design as an Angelic Vision.  I know that Advanced Humans (Ascended Masters), Angels, and Archangels are all space faring creatures.  They have ships, and way cool technology.  The reason that Hubbard got this technology were "aliens" or other space faring creatures that had a benevolent interest in mankind.  They knew that this device couldn't be utilized effectively at the time that they gave it to Hubbard.  But they knew that there would be an urban legend about that guy with a free energy thingy.  So they gave him a simplified plan for a miniature version of their electrogravity engine.  Think about it,  eight primary core secondary coils are eight vectors of thrust, infinite if modulate them.  The central core is supporting the main inertia canceling device.

The Hubbard Coil is a scale model of a UFO engine!

That's pretty heavy, er, uh, antiheavy...

Blessed Be Brothers...
Goodwill to All, for All is One!

Hoppy

Quote from: EMdevices on July 17, 2008, 09:32:14 PM
nice graphics GK,  and nice joke barbosi  LOL


@ all,

Pay attention, this is a new theory on the hubbard coil.    I've been thinking how do people arrive at these things?  What do they think about?  If the theory we come up with is too complex perhaps it's wrong.   Hubbard did not just throw together eight coils and the central coil together just for fun and realized something is happening, in other words, I believe people build something because they have an idea in mind, but the results might just surprise them.

So what did Hubbard have in mind?   Did he really think about the 8 electromagnets firing in sequence?   Maybe, but I think he might have had something simpler in mind.  Something more related to the knowledge of the day, something having to do with basic TRANSFORMER PRINCIPLES.

Here's the basics:

1)  Changing magnetic flux through a core wound with a coil will induce a voltage as  V = n d phi/dt, where 'n' is the number of turns of the coil

2)  Two coils on the same core, and overlapping, share all the same flux, so V1 = n1 dphi/dt,  V2 = n2 dphi/dt, and if we rearrange we get   V1 = V2 * (n1/n2)

3)  Transformers are assumed to conserve power so V1 * I1 = V2 *I2,  and based on the previous equations another equation can be derived  I1 = I2 * (n2/n1)

However,  if we have a third coil in proximity to the two closely coupled coils,  this coil will have a weaker coupling to the other two coils.   So,  consider this scenario based on the diagram below, assume n1=n2

1)  We energize L1 with a voltage V1, and since L2 is closely coupled, we have V1 = V2, and I1 = I2, we expect no losses in current or voltage if we hook these two coils together, which seems like a dumb thing to do cause it's so simple.

2)  However, now consider that the flux influences the center coil and induces a voltage in it.   The flux does not have to go through the core it can avoid it on the outside, but the magnetic flux will seek the path of least resistance, and it's this tendency that generates our free energy.  In other words we are letting the magnetic flux expand SIDEWAYS. 

3) The voltage generated in this coil we will use as the signal source for the first two coils hooked together, so now  we have a third voltage that tries to drive the two to resonate and amplify the voltage and current. 

So,  V1 = V2, but we are adding a V3, so V1 is actually V2+V3, but V2 is equal to V1 so it too must be V2+ V3, but we are adding V3  so we have V1 =V2 + V3 + V3, and so on, so do you see where this is going?   It's an amplifying loop, that stops when the resistance of the wires overpower the voltages and currents.

Anyway, this was a bit of hand waving for me, I'll try to do more rigorous calculations in the future...the important point is to remember that the sideway expanding flux might give rise to free energy.....

EM

P.S.  I encourage you guys to ponder this aspect of two coils tightly coupled so V1 = V2,  and then consider part of the flux partially penetrating a third coil that feeds it's voltage back to one of the first two.  It's one of those scenarios that boggles the mind, an iterative sort of a dynamic that takes some thought.  this could be what drove Hubbard to design his coil.  Or it wasn't,   LOL, but it's a damn good experiment to try out.  You see the center coil can resist the flux and the flux can go on the outside just fine  (but higher resistance) so the tendency of the flux to spread out is what really accounts for the extra energy if any.

I added the second diagram.  Notice the resistor R.  It has a voltage drop across it equal to V3, so then V1 = V2 is satisfied.   So when you hook a load to the output that is less then the value R,  the currents will INTENSIFY, to match the new conditions.   by the way, this is an AC system, flux needs to change else it doesn't work.  I'm getting all excited here folks,  any body seeing what I'm seeing?

@ all


The core material is the let down and any iron or ferrite based core will eventaully saturate and close the loop resulting in a loss of momentum in the amplifying process. Air cores are needed but this calls for high voltage working to develop the power as Tesla demonstrates. Do the exercise in a vacuum and results should change.

I see it matters little how the amplification is achieved, heat generation is the killer and represents massive power loss from the system and of course burnt fingers in the process1 Burn out will occur before a self-sustaining situation is reached through amplification. I think SM may have got closer than others in this and managed to sustain his inbuilt power supply by feedback long enough to impress the punters.

Hoppy

z.monkey

Howdy Hoppy,

I have to disagree with you.  This device is a current generator that operates below 500 Hertz.  Now if you want to build a generator that produces a bizillon volts, like Tesla, then air coils are the way to go.  But this is a current generator, the iron cores slow down the electromagnetic interactions with their large permeability.  This allows large currents to form in the relatively sluggish electromagnetic interactions.  I thought we already covered this...

Blessed Be Brothers...
Goodwill to All, for All is One!

Hoppy

Quote from: z.monkey on July 18, 2008, 08:40:47 AM
Howdy Hoppy,

I have to disagree with you.  This device is a current generator that operates below 500 Hertz.  Now if you want to build a generator that produces a bizillon volts, like Tesla, then air coils are the way to go.  But this is a current generator, the iron cores slow down the electromagnetic interactions with their large permeability.  This allows large currents to form in the relatively sluggish electromagnetic interactions.  I thought we already covered this...

Blessed Be Brothers...


Hi z.monkey

Agreed, but where's the proof it generated and he could control any appreciable or useable output and was not just what EM thinks is possible  when he says:  "So what did Hubbard have in mind?   Did he really think about the 8 electromagnets firing in sequence?   Maybe, but I think he might have had something simpler in mind.  Something more related to the knowledge of the day, something having to do with basic TRANSFORMER PRINCIPLES."

I suggest that SM may have found a way of controlling the feedback loop to his internal TPU PSU, possibly by some form of mechanical pulsing which gives rise to the reported 'rocking' motion.

Hoppy