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Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

Started by Butch, July 02, 2008, 01:01:34 PM

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wizkycho

Ergo !!!

You gave ZERO right reasons why this would not work !!!!

This is search for ZERO point energy ... You mixed something up. Maybe that confuses You.

Still 50:1 very possible

Wiz


wizkycho

@scotty1

Yes that's true.
And there is one crucial difference between Permanent Magnet and Magnetized steel (not saturated, and still in magnetic field).

I'll put above experiment in reference with my proposal of LaFontes linear Fanner machine:

- Permanent Magnet, although most of domains are orieneted in one direction, has even 20% of domains that are somewhat angled from Main Orientation. it has not homogen field by itself above some missaligned domains  - but it can be afterwards directed. homogenized with perm material or other pole of other magnet directly across first one....

next applies to fanner machine:
- When perm Metal is in homogen mag. field (of same width or littel smaller and metal not saturated) it develops polarity counter of what was applied to it (true). but domains in that steel are perfectly 100% aligned with main direction of field and field of magnets through metal is 100% homogen as long as this outer field is applied - so it can not affect adjanced steel or very little if in direct contact cause mag res will be slightly lower (see B-H curve), but none whatsoever if adjanced steel is distanced even slightly (1mm is even too big gap - no effect at all - can not be meassured)

When outer mag field is removed and if that Metal has remanence it will develop 20 or more % of not perfectly aligned domains. and even without will create nonhomogen field cause of nature of field itself and cause of property of AIR that unlike perm. materials HAS LINEAR B-H curve. flux lines tries to be distanced from one another as result they are spreding somewhat radially. For field of air core coil hardly can be said that any part of that field is homogen not even in center of coil, if core has perm. material core, field inside can be caracterised as homogen.

Conclusion:
1.Perm. Steel can be influenced with heterogen field (one magnet only one pole)
2.Perm Steel can be influenced with homogen field
(two magnets, attraction mode, on both sides of perm. steel, strenght such that not making it saturated)

only 2. has perfectly homogenized field inside perm. steel. In 1. perm material somewhat homogenizes field but flux lines still end up heterogen cause are seeking direction for another pole to close on it.
.......

Wiz

Elisha

We allready have a way to swith a strong field on off with low current, the joseph flynn valve.
also have a very effient way to convert a linear movement into a circular movement, the revetec.com trilobe crank.


The construction is: make a josehp flynn valve in "U" shape, in each extreme set a butch lafonte laminated expander, in the midle set the trilobe. Thats all Folks.

The working: turn on flynn valve to one extreme on (another extreme is automatically off) the laminated in this extreme is expanded (the another extreme is automatically compressed) and the trilobe rotate, next switch the flynn valve to the another extreme on.

wizkycho

Quote from: Elisha on October 23, 2008, 08:51:24 PM
We allready have a way to swith a strong field on off with low current, the joseph flynn valve.
also have a very effient way to convert a linear movement into a circular movement, the revetec.com trilobe crank.


The construction is: make a josehp flynn valve in "U" shape, in each extreme set a butch lafonte laminated expander, in the midle set the trilobe. Thats all Folks.

The working: turn on flynn valve to one extreme on (another extreme is automatically off) the laminated in this extreme is expanded (the another extreme is automatically compressed) and the trilobe rotate, next switch the flynn valve to the another extreme on.

Many thanks for this linear to rotational conversion device . I only knew for piston on excenter of wheel type. Are there any other efficient linear to rotational motion converters ? maybe simpler ones

We have Flynn, Hilde Brand, JLNs - MEP, Genesis revolutionary methods for controling mag. flux.
These methods (although with different properties in different setups...) have one thing in common -  mag flux amplification at output... Magnetic field Transistor name is implied by itself. (hope You all will allow me to use it - for shortening and clearifing descriptions)


About device - could work but should be quality design, else cause of losses could end up underunity.

Magnetic field Transistor has amplification 2 - 5, Fanner mech output is 30% (not sure of this number, can it be more ?).
so Magnetic field Trans should be constructed to have amp. factor somewhere beyond 3.2 (for quality and precision design) or more for lot's of losses design.
This amp factor 3 - 4 is not hard to achieve cause alternative path is always available (Washers) - magnet field easily reroutes (doesn't have to search for distanced rotor...). This is one of the beautys with this LaFontes setup - predictability. Mag Trans Amp factor always guaranteed.

But even amp 5 could be insufficient cause electricity afterwards should be efficiently generated....and conected back to efficient electronics....to proove OU.

Here COP (if precission design) drops to 1.5 - 3.(but it is enough)

Darlington (cascade) Magnetic field Transistor proposal should be used... then COP can rise 5 - 10 and easily overcome losses.

I might be misscalculated here cause when alternative path in mag trans is available (washers can even be constructed to touch "mag path directors" and slide with low friction) mag amplification could have even greater factor - means lower E input is needed for whole setup to work....

Wiz

AbbaRue

A source of parts may be an old AC clock motor.
These motors have a single coil wrapped around an iron core.
The motor rotor could be replaced by the cylindrical magnet