Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

[Butch LaFonte]

SoeN,
I must admit, you do have a point there.
Butch Lafonte

[Mr. M]

(Whisper:)  If I were you, I would not questioned someone else's intelligence.... It can "backfire" at you, Oh, great Teacher!

Yup! It can, it has and I've highlighted it for you.

You're also incapable of wielding the ellipsis, leave it alone... It's not for noobs.

[spikey]

Thanks for the info Butch, it's appreciated!

Do not allow a few greedy, selfish people, with backwards attitudes ruin your attempts to share your discoveries and research data.

ANYONE who applies for a patent in this field, especially given what we know about the state of our planet and the idiots who control it, and consequently us - is both asking for trouble (you can guess what i mean by that) and incredibly selfish and short sighted.

'Patented' alternative energy devices don't make it to maket - full stop.
Open source is different - look at all the info and resources surrounding HHO and GEET at the moment.

It's time to stop thinking in terms of 'How much money can i make out of this' and more of 'How much can we benefit from this as a species'.
Actually, the time for this kind of thinking was about 50 or 60 years ago, but better to be late than never to arrive at all eh?

Ignore the creeps and idiots who do you a disservice, and focus more on the people, such as myself who both value and respect your efforts in this area.

Bottom line is this If you sell or patent 'free energy technology', the world will never see, hear, or use it..If you open source the technology - the 'die hard' money lovers will still try to rip you off, BUT the ideas (which cannot to stopped) will be out there, in the world, amongst like minded people to collaborate on, which hopefully lead to real world applications and technologies for the betterment of all.

Keep on keeping on Butch, your doing a grand job.

Spikey.

[Butch LaFonte]

Thanks for the info Butch, it's appreciated!

Do not allow a few greedy, selfish people, with backwards attitudes ruin your attempts to share your discoveries and research data.

ANYONE who applies for a patent in this field, especially given what we know about the state of our planet and the idiots who control it, and consequently us - is both asking for trouble (you can guess what i mean by that) and incredibly selfish and short sighted.

'Patented' alternative energy devices don't make it to maket - full stop.
Open source is different - look at all the info and resources surrounding HHO and GEET at the moment.

It's time to stop thinking in terms of 'How much money can i make out of this' and more of 'How much can we benefit from this as a species'.
Actually, the time for this kind of thinking was about 50 or 60 years ago, but better to be late than never to arrive at all eh?

Ignore the creeps and idiots who do you a disservice, and focus more on the people, such as myself who both value and respect your efforts in this area.

Bottom line is this If you sell or patent 'free energy technology', the world will never see, hear, or use it..If you open source the technology - the 'die hard' money lovers will still try to rip you off, BUT the ideas (which cannot to stopped) will be out there, in the world, amongst like minded people to collaborate on, which hopefully lead to real world applications and technologies for the betterment of all.

Keep on keeping on Butch, your doing a grand job.

Spikey.

Spikey,
I don't mind the negative comments. The way I see it is there are two ways to go through life, as a spectator or in the arena. I knew when I chose the arena that there would be trash thrown at me. But that beats being a spectator any day.
Thanks for the support,
Butch

[newton2]

Hello Honoured Profiles and The Honoured Administrator of this the Honourable OU-Forum !
And my especial Hello to the 2 Honoured Profiles : Butch LaFonte , Spikey about Their very recent
Replies of this continued going on Topics-Ideas-Discussion !

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The suggested Idea of the original Topic (P 1)  HAS to be  evaluated through-out !
Allthough the H-Magnetical "Force-Field/Force-Action" in Elder Magneto-Statics has been
stated as : NON-Conservative ,
THÉN indeed it STILL is possible to "choose" surden Technical Layouts , inwhere the H-Magnetical "Force" might in total function somehow like "Conservative"....==>> 
THÉN nearly "nil" of OU  /"out-cancelling" OU !!

The suggested original Topic´s Idea IS in Principle a possible OU-method to "gain" perhaps at "most" : 1-2 procents of OU when at "best" adjusted;
though the Idea INVOLVES a most delicate Technical Layout to should "adjust" per cut&try and similar emperically done layouts-alterings.......and also is MOST dependent on mu-r-materials´s H-magnetical-Properties......................
about the recent few explanative Sentences  to say :
if when ALL Functionings should be with Magneto-Statical-Mechanics Actions ,
if when NOT then to should involve Electro-Magnetical-Coils !
(By Magneto-Statics just meant somehow like Electro-Statics , though dynamical Mechanical Movements of course can be.....) !

The suggested Idea I self have evaluated about some Y-Decades ago , though that past Time ago then evaluated as related to quite otherwise evaluations about electromagnetical Coil acting to 2 pcs nearby-to-each-others placed/being mu-r-rods........
(my original evaluations though were about "some" else related to mu-r-rods interacting to exterior H-fields , to say : about some quite otherwise Circumstances of otherwise OU-Ideas than the suggested Idea in the Original Discussions-Topic) 

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Might I kindly hint about : the Classical Mechanics´s  socalled "3-mutually-Forces-interacting-Bodies"-Problem , THOUGH if when as about H-Magnetical Objects........!!
, or THOUGH if when as Electro-Statical-Objects...........!!
FOR EVALUATIONS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SIGNS AND POLARITIES ALSO HAVE TO BE , etc , compared to the Original Classical 3-Bodies-MASSES (one Signs)-Problem ; INVOLVED Maths-Complexities and Types of Functions , etc !

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THERE IS A SOCALLED NEARLY PENDANT PER ELECTRO-STATICS TO THE ORIGINAL TOPIC´s
SUGGESTED IDEA  (of : using 2 pcs mu-r-rods in an exterior H-field) !!

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WKR & have Yourselves a nice Day and fruitfull Results of Your idealisical important OU-Researches !
My kind Thanks to the many OU-Researchers and Researchers else in Alternative Physics and similar important knowledges-improving Matters !

Might I kindly praise the Course of OU  !!