Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

[wizkycho]

Hi Yucca !

last drawing might work but it is somewhat beyond or bellow original idea so there is big question mark.

First drawing you made has much chance to work.

but you need TWO "Lafonte HARMONICS" ( IIIII ), constructed on this principal:

while one magnet pair ENTERS first IIIII , the other magnet pair LEAVES other IIIII (at a same angle and distance)

that way net IN energy is only friction. OUTPUT is pure strenght of magnets.

Wiz

[Yucca]

Hi Yucca !

last drawing might work but it is somewhat beyond or bellow original idea so there is big question mark.

First drawing you made has much chance to work.

but you need TWO "Lafonte HARMONICS" ( IIIII ), constructed on this principal:

while one magnet pair ENTERS first IIIII , the other magnet pair LEAVES other IIIII (at a same angle and distance)

that way net IN energy is only friction. OUTPUT is pure strenght of magnets.

Wiz

Hi Wiz,

Thanks for perusing my design.

So are you saying that it would be better to have two stator steels and two rotor sets staggered so that when one set comes together the other set are going apart?

I think that the 5:4 ratio would work well because every interacting set will be slightly out of phase, so when you integrate the forces through one revolution you will get a smoother torque distribution. Also you would get less radial bearing loading and thus longer device lifetime.

You also state that this second design is not as optimal as the first, could you please tell me why you think that?

All the best, Yucca.

[wizkycho]

- It's different in a way that here I can see possible "stuck points" unless very briliantly balanced (like in any only magnet setup)
(come to think of it looks like few series SMOTS rotating...but with difference, ORTHOGONAL plates - three flux paths !?!)...
now i stand corrected You Should definitely try this last design - this is something new.

- whit pure LaFonte "stretching" stators (I call it HARMONICS). I don't see stuck points

simple as that...no need to go further

Wiz

[wizkycho]

and Yucca !

5:4 = (magnet pairs):(Lafonte "stertching" stators)...should definitely work - if properly designed

I made simmilar setup trying to replicate Francouver Interference disk Generator. this was wonderfull project but I stoped at version 1
which proved that cogging can be completely avoided although High flux from magnets was applied. as soon
as I removed only one magnet cogging was tremendous and rotor couldn't be moved by hand.
Talking about very strong forces balanced. Generation of el current was weak cause non overlaping area was to narrow so magnets
fluxes bended and closed on two near perm conductive areas....this thing allso should be implemented here and use wider area between
two magnetic pairs. flux doesn't go straight line it changes vektor if allowed.

easier to say than construct it...but can be done

wiz

[Yucca]

OK Wiz, I think I see what you are saying, thankyou.

We now only need to verify that using the steel fanner effect the seperation force of the steel plates exhibits a lenz violation due to its perpendicular nature. If it does then some of the seperation force of the steel is for free and system COP>1.

The easiest way to verify is to build a motor, I will now try and build and I hope for the magic to happen.

All the best, Yucca