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Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

Started by Butch, July 02, 2008, 01:01:34 PM

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Koen1

@Yucca: Thanks! That helps a lot. :)

@Wizkycho: I am sorry, but anyone who so confidently proclaims a permanent magnet to
be an actual "flux capacitor" immediately plummets several hundred feet in my esteem.
Next thing you know you'll be claiming that you can go back to the future. ;)

If you think a permanent magnet is a "magnetic" capacitor, then you probably also think
that a battery is a "current capacitor"?
I'd almost think that you believe that magnetic flux flows through a magnetic material just
like electrons flow through a conductor... Surely you don't...?

wizkycho

Quote from: Koen1 on October 15, 2008, 09:25:55 AM
@Yucca: Thanks! That helps a lot. :)

@Wizkycho: I am sorry, but anyone who so confidently proclaims a permanent magnet to
be an actual "flux capacitor" immediately plummets several hundred feet in my esteem.
Next thing you know you'll be claiming that you can go back to the future. ;)

If you think a permanent magnet is a "magnetic" capacitor, then you probably also think
that a battery is a "current capacitor"?
I'd almost think that you believe that magnetic flux flows through a magnetic material just
like electrons flow through a conductor... Surely you don't...?

1. back in Time is not possible at all - therefore back from Time to future allso is not. cause Time doesn't exists, it is human invention from nothing, there is no Time in nature or space. Time trevel never and never can be made real.
Flux capacitor in the movie allso could be filled only to egzakt ammount of flux - just like a permanent magnet.
Capacitor and battery are SOURCES of electron "medium". So is magnet as SOURCE of flux in magnetism.
You'll be surprised but I believe that car can go on bananas too..!!!!! ;D

2. I never said that - you did. ! But if You really don't know  water,heat , magnetism, current, voltage, light ...-  fields of scinece have their sepparate rules but in some points they interact. Transistor, capacitor, wire, conductor, condensator - are common descriptional words of what that part is doing but not the medium is using.

So here on Earth, You will see when You come and visit us, there are words as Light Wire (it "conducts" light and you'll be surprised not at all electrons) common red brick can be Heat Capacitor (but again You'll be surprised heat is stored not electrons). are You tring to open linguistic debate -  go to the other forum.

I'm actually proposing to embrase term magnetic transistor so we would not have to go through all of this explanation of what it is.
when phrase "magnetic transistor" is said  - everything is said.
agreed ?

Wiz

wizkycho

Quote from: drsquires on October 13, 2008, 07:53:00 PM
To get the point across on how powerful this effect can be since Butch posted the wimpy
simulation results and very suboptimal structures I will post one simulation result of a better
structure to get you guys going the right direction.

This simulation uses M19 steel with 7 large segments that would be 4 inches deep and 3 inches high.
The gap on each side to the magnets is 0.25 inch. The magnets are N45 NIB. 
The total stroke would be about 8 inches in this example.
The force developed at the starting point shown here is just over 390lbs or 1738 newtons. 
Again the magnetic forces of attraction would be much larger, but is of
no consequence if proper design is used to manage and cancel those forces.

Enjoy,
Dave Squires

Hi Dave Squires !

Can you please post ziped fem model and If would explain to me how to properly start calculation of forces.
Your results are more than promissing. I allso think it could be so.

Wiz

wizkycho

Quote from: ramset on October 15, 2008, 08:49:38 AM
Yucca did you look at Erhfinders web site http://www.forgotten-genius.com/documents/home_1.html In his news section is a video of something similar and running
      Chet

Hi all !

the last video is no longer available. any other link. you saved it maybe ?

Time to wake up... sounds like must have video ?

Wiz




Goat

Hi Wiz

Not sure why it doesn't work for you but I was able to play the "Time to wake up" video on the http://www.forgotten-genius.com/documents/in_the_news.html site, if it doesn't open for you maybe try this direct link to the video on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/v/wO5ASxjwi14&hl=en

Regards;
Paul