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Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

Started by Butch, July 02, 2008, 01:01:34 PM

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Butch

Quote from: gyulasun on October 17, 2008, 06:03:26 PM
Hi Butch,

When Mark pushes in the bars the needle goes to the left: means the current becomes a bit less. And when he pulls them out, the needle goes a little to the right: means some current increase. Also when the bars separate the needle goes to the left: current decrease.

Is this what you mean?

rgds,  Gyula
Gyula,
Yes you see it correctly. The first tests years ago were very discouraging. They showed that the bars repelling each other caused a counter EMF that opposed the voltage/current from the power supply. This is not a constant reluctance circuit.
Butch

hartiberlin

Quote from: Butch on October 17, 2008, 01:24:51 PM
This is the first of five test videos done by Mark years ago. I want you all to watch it and please tell me what think you see going on in the test, the results that is.
Here is the link > http://www.fdp.nu/shared/files/ButchLaFonte/Perpendicular%20Magnetics/Test1.mov
Thanks Guys,
Butch

Hi Butch,
good video.

We can see here, that the principle works.
We only have to look at the part of the movie, when the 2 iron rods
are inside the external core.

When Mark is pressing the 2 rods together, the ampmeter does not move
very much and when he releases them, so they will
again go apart abount an inch, also the ampmeter does not move much.

So you see, that the inductance of the whole coil-core system is not much changed during these
events.

Better would still have been, if Mark would have put the 2 iron rods ontop of each other into the external
coil-core.
Then one rod would have been lifted up and then even the ampmeter would have shown less movement,
when one rod was lifted up by the repellation forces between the 2 iron rods.

To control then the 2 iron rods,one needs only to
switch on and off the coil with short pulses from the power supply and put a cap in parallel with the coil
and have this LC circuit have the same resonance frequency as the iron rod
movement frequency and the power supply pulse frequency.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

BEP

I think one of the important facts is the current returns to the original point whether the bars are together or separated.

Another important point is this 'original point' is a static result. I believe @poynt99 made that point already. Lenz is part of this during the separation and combination of the flux.

To me, this demonstrates one reason to not use electronics and coils in place of magnets.

derricka

I just had a crazy idea. I thought about the repulsion between the washer "plates" and turned it upside down to think attraction instead. Attracting plates would be a charged capacitor. Repelling plates should be a capacitor "charged" with inverse power.  Then I had an even crazier idea. What would happen if you shorted (or loaded) the plates either just approaching or just leaving the magnets....?

b0rg13

Quote from: derricka on October 18, 2008, 02:17:36 AM
I just had a crazy idea. I thought about the repulsion between the washer "plates" and turned it upside down to think attraction instead. Attracting plates would be a charged capacitor. Repelling plates should be a capacitor "charged" with inverse power.  Then I had an even crazier idea. What would happen if you shorted (or loaded) the plates either just approaching or just leaving the magnets....?
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