Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08

[rlortie]

LarryC

[Can anyone see any problems with this design?]

Normally I do not get involved with threads of this design, I have seen it to many times in the last 50 years of my involvement. Each new generation believe they have found the answer.

Yes I see a problem!  Or maybe it is what I do not see, that being any out-of-balance  (OB)

A vertical vector diagnostic shows that both sides of the wheel are within frictional loss of showing any gradient. In layman language it is a balanced wheel, just as a pendulum is balanced when resting true vertically.

For those of you that have been around the block a couple of times,  I am surprised of the interest this thread is recieving.

You need to go back to Bessler's MT drawings and refresh your memory with the first eight or so wheels depicted. With or without magnets it will not work!

Still in doubt? go back to the original drawing and do a mass to leverage calculation and you will see that that the concentrated mass on the ascending outweighs the leverage gain of the decending.

@CLaNZeR and AB Hammer, Broli,  I am surprised to see  you spending time on this,  Fool me once and its my fault, fool me twice and.............. Is TinselKoala the only one here that can see this?  A stupid question as  I know better from my own experience with others involved here.

Ralph

[AB Hammer]

I'm sorry Ralph

Being sick I didn't have much to do at the time. You know these guys don't believe us when we say it won't work. But you are correct and I only had a mild excuse to post on it. I am going to take a nap until the fever drops.

Thanks 

[mondrasek]

Back from a nap. 

Dudeman750, we can talk on the phone.

TinselKoala,

Sorry for the delay.  But I wanted to address some, but probably not all, of your previos comments.

The difference between my concept and the previous "gravity wheels" that I have seen on the site you referenced is (I bellieve) the base technology of the "mass switch".  I use a constant force to switch the mass of the mass switch magnets from one location to another.  They then remain in the new location or even travel farther (gravity assisted) with no additional input power.  I can arrange these mass switches as shown in all the documents to make an unbalance wheel.  The wheel can always be made big enough and have enough mass switches to overcome the constant force needed to activate the mass switch.  ie.  Making the wheel bigger makes the output rotational torque due to gravity greater while making the wheel bigger does not increase the repulsive force needed to activate the mass switches.

My employeer is a wholly owned subsidary of the firm that does have the simulation software needed.  They were sent the patent to analyze on Friday mornging.  My office does not engineer the base technology that would require that type of software.  We engineer manufacturing equipment that uses their technology, so we have CAD, FMEA, etc.  It is like if my parent company built motors and we built conveyors that use motors.

I am still not asking anyone here to make me a prototype, though I cannot be happier that Clanzer is doing so for us all to see.  I only ask that you forward the patent app and any other relavant information to any other institutions or individuals with the tools and desire to begin work on this.  This will expedite the release of humanitarian and other products that use this technology (assuming it works).  For example, if GE was to begin working on large scale power generator today, they could license the technology next month and not have mearly wasted a month.  More importantly, if any firm begins to develop a gravity motor powered water pump now, it will begin saving lives sooner.  I will wave any licence fee for such humanitarian devices.

[LarryC]

[Can anyone see any problems with this design?]
Normally I do not get involved with threads of this design, I have seen it to many times in the last 50 years of my involvement. Each new generation believe they have found the answer.

Yes I see a problem!  Or maybe it is what I do not see, that being any out-of-balance  (OB)

A vertical vector diagnostic shows that both sides of the wheel are within frictional loss of showing any gradient. In layman language it is a balanced wheel, just as a pendulum is balanced when resting true vertically.

Well, I'm from your generation. Maybe my simple drawing does not explain it well enough. Have you seen Archer's mag array demos? It can move large masses at high speed for much greater distances then just a repulsion magnet. Excuse me but my drawing assumes you know that. So that movement at (1) 1:30 and (3)7:30 is almost instantaneous. I don't know why your so called 'vertical vector diagnostic' is not picking up an extreme out of balance at this point. Of course this may be due to input data based on my less than full explanation.

Regards, Larry

[dudeman750]

I have been playing with that Phun software all afternoon and Im totally impressed and having a ton of fun with it. Thanks for that at least Koala. Its low learning curve is great, lack of some tools sucks though. I am now looking for something with more capabilities if anyone would like to chime in and let me know some package that might do real time physics modeling and dosent require 2 years to learn.