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Overunity Machines Forum



Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08

Started by mondrasek, July 11, 2008, 04:55:49 PM

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CLaNZeR

Quote from: dudeman750 on July 12, 2008, 12:51:47 PM
If the "wall" shows to be too much of a problem, would you consider firing the magnets with some sort of electromagnet/ microswitch setup? This would bring in external power source for testing but later could be generated by the wheel itself.

If you fire two Coils each revolution, there is no way you will re-gain the energy you just used to power those coils.

If you are going for a pulse motor, then you are better off going for a heavy flywheel that has a long wind down time, then pulse it once every so many hundred revolutions. This way you might just get enough energy back from the spinning wheel to do the next pulse of the coil.

If you can get a self running gravity wheel, then it may take a long time at slow RPM's to charge anything up, but atleast you are not having to use any of that power gained to keep it running.

Cheers

Sean.

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broli

Quote from: mondrasek on July 12, 2008, 12:59:22 PM
Nice to see you in here dudeman750,  (He's been my best friend for 20 years or so.  Initially thought I was crazy when I told him I had solved the world's energy crisis)

Everyone understand that the "wall" force will not increase even if we double or triple the diameter of the set up so we can hang more weight on it? 

She'll run eventually if not on this diameter.

Dudeman750 just wants to skip ahead to the electromagnets that eliminate the wall altogether.

Agreed but you'll need the right variables. So if it doesn't run it might be because of some variable not being in sync with the rest.

mondrasek

Clanzer,

In theory (using superconducting materials), when you excite an electtomagnetic coil the current rushes into the coil and stops once the magnetic field is saturated, right?  When the coil is disconnected from the power source the magnetic field collapses through the coil windings (back EMF) sending the current back the way it initially came.  Can this current not be reclaimed so that a loss-less device is created (again assuming superconducting circutry and wires)? 

This is just theory on my part since the last Electrical Engineering class I took was 20+ years ago.  But if true in theory, the only energy we would need to bleed off of the Gravity Motor output to run this circuit would be to replace the real world current losses due to resistance.

Haven't had any of my Electrical Engineer friends give me the answer to this one.  What do you think/know?

M.

mondrasek

The electromagnets do not accelerate the wheel.  They only replace the stator magnets and fire the perminant mass switch magnets up their respective guide tubes.  This should eliminate the "wall" alltogether.

We have plenty of power to work the electromagnets.  You can always scale the diameter of the wheel up and add more mass switches to create larger output torque = generated electricity.  Complete scalability is one of the beauties of this design.  The question is:

Does replacing the "wall" associated with the perminant magnet stator magnets with the power drain of electromagnets and a firing circuit for stator magnets create more or less efficient conversion of Gravity to power?  I think ultimately the electromagnets will be more efficient (again, I am hesitant about my electro-magnetic theory recall).

Anyone else care to weigh in on the electromagnet stator magnet possiblities?

Thanks,

M.

mondrasek

Either way, the perminant magnet stator magnets are the way to go for a first build.  Electromagnet stator replacements are just topic for discussion at this time IMHO.