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Overunity Machines Forum



Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08

Started by mondrasek, July 11, 2008, 04:55:49 PM

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CLaNZeR

Quote from: mondrasek on July 18, 2008, 11:31:00 AM
I can't believe I am gonna go here, but...  Halbach Arrays.  If you force 5 square magnets together in the proper orientations in a Halbach Array you move most of the magnetic field to one of the long sides.  That side now has a North and South pole of nearly double the strength centered around the second and fourth magnet.  But what happens to the wall if approached from the side?  I believe it would be pulled closer to the edge of the array, but then be proportionally stronger, requiring just the same amount of energy to traverse as that of a regular magnet of equal strength.  Like the magnetic field lines have been squeezed on the sides.  Is this correct?  Anyone know of a diagram that shows the field lines on a Halbach Array through sections cut in each of the 5 magnets?

Just got home this end for the weekend and catching up :)

Here are some Halbach array videos I did earlier on this year.

http://www.overunity.org.uk/halbach/CLaNZeRHalbachExperiments1.wmv
http://www.overunity.org.uk/halbach/CLaNZeRHalbachExperiments2.wmv
http://www.overunity.org.uk/halbach/CLaNZeRHalbachExperiments3.wmv
http://www.overunity.org.uk/halbach/CLaNZeRHalbachExperiments4.wmv

Cheers

Sean.
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shakman

Quote from: mondrasek on July 18, 2008, 11:37:23 AM
@Shakman,

Are you wanting to fire the magnets early (before 6 and 12) due to the time it takes them to travel to the other end of the switch tubes?  So, in effect, they fire early (advanced), but make it to the other end exactly at 6 and 12, or at and equally late time (retarded)?

I like this idea.  For example, if you fire the bottom switch at 5:45 and the magnet arrives at the other end at 6:15 at the optimized RPM.  Am I following you correctly?

Hey mondrasek

Close. The idea is to have the magnet arrive at the switch well before 6am.

This puts the mean centre of the magnet orientation above the axel, theoretically causing gravity to attempt to correct it.

It should also reduce the amount of negative torque as the weight shift of the magnet across the horizontal is moving left to right, the same direction the bottom half of the wheel is moving (in a clockwise spinning wheel).

It should work, in theory, but we've seen what happens to a lot of theories over time, so take it with a grain of salt for now. But I definitely see the advantage in such a setup.

shakman

EDIT: Ooops, messed up the underline  :-[

CLaNZeR

Quote from: shakman on July 18, 2008, 11:14:05 AM

The way I see it, by firing directly up at 6 you are creating more negative torque than neccessary and fighting gravity more than at any other angle.

I really believe this wheel will never work when firing at 6 & 12 as originally planned in the patent, it is too balanced across the horizontal.

@Clanzer - Any chance you could try this too?


Hi Shakman

Planning on making the bottom stator movable as such, so will try this when the new big wheel is up.

Just unpacked me parcels and trying out the tubes and magnets below :)



Magnet is a nice fit without being too tight.



Here is a quick video to show the strength of these magnets.

http://www.overunity.org.uk/MGW/CLaNZeRMGW4.wmv

Waiting for another 6 magnets to arrive tomorrow and my plastic pipe clips that I expected to be here today but they are not grrrrrrrr

Good news is that I should have most of next week time to build it as I do not have to go away to work  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers

Sean.
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shakman

Quote from: CLaNZeR on July 18, 2008, 12:17:05 PM
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Planning on making the bottom stator movable as such, so will try this when the new big wheel is up.
...

@CLaNZeR

Awesome work as always!

A movable stator should allow you to quickly test lots of configurations. It might be a good idea to make the upper stator adjustable within a small range too while you're at it if it's not too hard to implement. Again, firing straight up is against all natural forces so maybe a 12.30/4.30 set up might yield the best results. But it's your experiment so don't let me interfere, I've got nothing set up to test with yet outside of my CAD illustrations (i.e. my imagination) so I'm not in a position to talk really  :-[

The new plastic pipes look brilliant. That should let everyone see what's going on.

Love your work!

shakman

therealrasta

@Clanzer

Nice size tubes and mags.. Can't wait to see some footage..