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Overunity Machines Forum



Infinity Coil

Started by z.monkey, July 11, 2008, 08:12:41 PM

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wattsup

@Z

Thanks for your explanation of your winding strategy which is very right and smart. At least we know this is all experimental.

What I will do is prepare for you a wiring diagram that if used will show the dynamics of these coils.

I need to know if you have these items.

1) Do you have any capacitors on hand. Please say yes.
2) Do you have another DPDT relay to replace your burnt out one?
3) Do you have a small magnet.
4) Do you have a compass. If yes, use it to identify where is the Earths north pole.
5) Do you have a variable DC power supply.
6) Do you have a 12 volt battery.
7) Do you have a volt meter.

While I make the diagram can you try one small thing. If yes........

You will need items 3, 5 and 7.

1) First you have to standardize the coil polarities. I suggest making the bolt head side north and the bold nut side south, so if all the coils, including the center coil are wound the same way just use dc voltage on any primary to identify the north and south with your compass and remember where the positive and negative go on the coils to always keep this configuration.
2) Now turn the Hubbard coil assembly so that the bolt head is facing north.
3) Place your compass beside any one of the 8 outer bolt heads. The north of the compass should be pointing away from the bolt head.
4) Now apply 1 volt dc to that coil. You can manual connect and release (pulse) the coil to see if the compass is moving.
5) Increase the voltage by 1 volt increments, pulsing if you have to until the compass north is now pointing to the bolt head.
6) How many volts are required to hold the compass north pointing to the bolt head. This is the outer coil voltage or OCV.
7) Do the same thing for the center coil primary and see what voltage is required. This is the inner coil voltage or ICV.

8) Now put your volt meter on the inner coil primary and manually pulse any OCV at its known voltage. Do you see the meter moving. Now put the volt meter on the inner coil secondary. Do you see a reading.

9) Now put your volt meter on the outer coil primary and manually pulse the ICV at the known voltage. Do you see the meter moving. Now put the volt meter on the outer coil secondary. Do you see a reading.

This information will be helpful in understanding the coil dynamics, meaning how much juice is required to get this device breathing and to acquaint yourself with the coils. Try and keep these results on paper for future reference.

What I am trying to  understand is the energy required to produce a field. If after 12 volts dc, you come back and say the compass never moved, this will tell us one thing and if you come back and say the compass turned to the bolt head with only 3 volts, this will tell us something else. If you manually pulsed the inner coil primary with 6 volts and are reading 6 volts on any outer coil primary or secondary, this will tell us more. lol

AbbaRue

@wattsup
Thanks for the diagnostic concept, I know this should be common sense
when building any coil circuit, but I never thought of it.
I usually just check the inductance of the coils and go from there.

z.monkey

Howdy Wattsup,

Right off the top of my head I can tell you this core has really good magnetization.  The peripheral core flux flows in the opposite direction than the center core flux.  The flux field was very strong when I was pulsing the transformer last night.  I could feel the pulses like 5 inches away from the cores (bolt ends).  I hold a magnet in my fingers and feel around the core while it is pulsing.  When I get the magnet close to the core the pulses are very strong.  The configuration of cores that I am using makes a cylindrical magnetic field where the center core develops the main field and the return field is in the peripheral cores.

I will run the magnetization experiments, but not right at the moment.  I need to get away from this thing  for a couple of days to clear my thoughts and think about how I am going to pulse it next.

Blessed Be Brothers...
Goodwill to All, for All is One!

z.monkey

Howdy Wattsup,

I noticed something when I was playing with the compass and the coil.  The bolts are partially magnetized.  This, I guess, was to be expected because the cores are low grade steel.  I have all the things on you list except a variable power supply.  I don't want to use line AC, I got a thing against the transmission line power distribution.  But I do have plenty of batteries.

I noticed that all the coils produce a good magnetic field even at 1.5 Volts (one D size battery).  I'm using the high impedance windings when testing with the compass.  When I am pulsing the center coil secondary (high impedance winding) at 12.4 volts the peripheral core secondary windings (high impedance windings) connected in series produces 5.1 volts AC.  So around 0.64 volts per peripheral core winding.  The interesting thing here is on the scope the induced voltages are very sharp spikes and not AC like sine waves.  This coil produces short duration high amplitude spikes when current is pulsed through it.  This might have something to do with the core construction,  relatively long solenoids.  A typical solenoid is an inch to an inch and a half long.  These are 8 inches long.

I keep going around and around about which is the input and which is the output.  Is the inner coil the input, and the peripheral coils the output?  Or visa versa?  If this thing really is a transformer it should be able to be used both ways.

OK, I got an idea,  I'll be back in a minute...

Blessed Be Brothers and Sisters...

Goodwill to All, for All is One!

z.monkey

Howdy Y'all,

Sir!  Excuse me Sir!  Would you kindly step completely out of the box.  Sir! can you hear me?

He he, OK hooked up a DC Motor in series with the primary coil (low impedance coil) on the center core.  I hooked up the AC voltmeter in parallel with the primary coil.  I get a AC voltage of 0.185 V on the primary core and 0.940 V on the secondary winding.  This is what I expected because there is about a 1 to 5 ratio difference on the windings.  Most of the voltage drop is across the motor at this point.  On the peripheral cores I get 0.195 V on the secondary coils (high impedance coils) wired in series, and a negligible 0.036 V on the primary coils (low impedance coils) wound in series.  What I was attempting to do here was use the motor as the current switching device, which it is, but most of the voltage drop is across the motor.  But we can see, even though the voltages are small there is a transformer effect.

I still have a current deficiency.  As I continue to increase the current across the center core primary coil we will see the peripheral voltages get higher.  I am still not saturating the core with flux, not supplying enough current to do that yet.  The next logical step is to use a motorized commutator which is capable of switching current at a level which is able to saturate the core.  Then we will start to see what this thing is supposed to do...

Blessed Be Brothers and Sisters...
Goodwill to All, for All is One!