Infinity Coil

[Yucca]

Been following this thread from the start Z.Monkey. Very nice unit you've built there, hope it goes well for you.

[wattsup]

@Z

Some very interesting things going on there. I forgot to mention that when you check the bolt head magnetism with the compass it may be necessary for you to find an aluminium sheet on which you can cut a hole to pass the bolt head through so as to try and block the field comming from the coil  winding itself. This is always the difficult thing to do because when you check the bolt head, is it the metal itself or the coil field that is influencing the compass movement.

But from what you are saying about the bolt material, I am not so surprised because those bolts did not look to me as though they are true iron. So at least you know what is the limitation in terms of core saturation. I do not think you can count on the cores to make this device work, and based on this, we do not know if it is even in th same league as the true Hubbard coil. This is always again the problem when we decide to build something before one can convene on a strategy.

Yes some will say, just build it, but again, the more points you take into consideration from the outset, the better prepared you are for testing and expected results.

So in essence, your Infinity coil is a semi-saturable cored multi-transformer.

I will prepare a few diagrams for you to try which I am sure will give you better results. These will be mostly based on the Tesla Ozone Patent, Erfinders Challenge circuit and also @allcanadians' small circuit. All these are designed to provide a good strong solid high voltage spike going into them primaries that would be configured either in parallel or in series but most likely a mix, with let's say 2 x four primaries in parallel then put in series, or 2 x four primaries in series starting at opposite sides then in parallel.

In all cases, I would put the 8 secondaries in parallel (never in series) and measure power transfer, then measure power off the center primary and secondary to compare.

Also, using the DC motor will not do the switching because most DC motor brushes are wider then the commutator sections, so there is always the next section that is already in contact. You would have to do like the photo I posted above of a modified commutator.

But you can do this with a dpdt relay for now just to see the effects. You will need a 12 volt battery, a dpdt relay, a nice 47mf (or so) 200 volts or more capacitor and the biggest regular transformer (use the secondary only) you may have. These coupled to the Infinity coil should give you the starting results you are looking for and the best point from which you can then play with the Infintiy coil wiring schemes. Just be carefull because I had some nice jolts when touching the wrong wires at the wrong time.

In general, if you look at the diagram located here and replace the 240vac transformer with the primaries of the Infinity coil, you should see some better results.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3972.msg77661.html#msg77661

You can use a large cap and diode on the secondary side to see how fast the voltage will rise.
This whole thread has good information.

All the best.

[z.monkey]

Howdy Y'all,

Yucca, thanks for the praise.

Wattsup, yeah, a LOT of factors to consider.

I have a 10 Amp relay that I can use to drive the coil without it overheating.  I'm going to stick with the relay driving the coil and the PIC board driving the relay for the current experiments.  When I go to an alternating commutator I want to build it myself, already have a plan, not the time.

There are some relatively cheap and quick modifications I want to do first.  I have the coils squished together.  I think this is hindering the return flux on the outside of the coils, in the air.  I am going to make new end plates to change the distance between the coils.  Then in the process I am going to change the peripheral coils wiring to be parallel.  This means adding another 16 terminals to the end plates.  I think that having the peripheral coils wound in series is causing wave contention, hindering the output.  With the peripheral coils in parallel the waves will be in phase.

There is another scenario I am considering.  This is testing driving the peripheral coils and using the center coil as the output.  A set of 4 relays controlled by the PIC board, each driving 2 opposite peripheral coils.  The coils would be energized in sequences around the device.  This would create the spinning flux effect that I have been looking for.  Another way to do this would be with a compound commutator which has a brush for each coil.  The timing for such a device could be set with a series of brushes around a distributing commutator which would function very much like a automotive distributor, except that it distributes current, not high voltage.  Both these scenarios are pretty expensive.

Blessed Be...

[wattsup]

@Z

Before you make your changes, here is a very easy test you can do and I am sure you will learn alot about the infinity coil.

You need a 12 volt battery. Measure the voltage of the battery before you start.
A - Use any large regular step down transformer. The biggest one you have and use only the secondary.
B - Use non-polarized capacitor in the 47uf range - 200-400 volts.

Put the 8 primaries in series or if they are already in parallel, try it with parallel first.
Put the secondaries in parallel of if they are is series, try it with series first.

The Red and Black dot is the secondary output that you can put a diode and a high voltage capacitor of 1200v with the highest uf you can find.
Put your meter at M- and M+ to check the voltage rise.

Here's where the fun starts.
The two wire at C. Just manually touch them together and release and see what happens on the meter reading. You can do this faster or slower manually.

Then you can put the 8 coils in series or parallel and see the differences.
You can also try with different A and B. You can try with all or some of the 8 coils.
If you keep this set-up and just do some peripheral changes, this will teach you much more then changing the whole system.
If none of this gets your blood boiling, then the primary to secondary coupling action of the coils may need some tinkering, but don't do anything before.
If it does show some good action on the meter, you can then imagine the effect if the wires at C were pulsing off a relay or other method.
You can leave the center coil alone or use it in the variables as you wish.
The main point to learn something about this coil is to keep a base driving method the same and change peripherals to see the changes in the system. You will learn much more this way.

Sorry for the diagram quality it is more a block diagram. My circuit diagram skills stink.
By the way, this circuit is taken directly from @allcanadian's circuit. This and Erfinder's circuit is the simplest, yet the most effective driving method I have seen so far. You can also look at the Tesla Ozone Patent which is the base for all this.

Oh yeh, check the battery voltage once in a while. You may be surprised.

[Groundloop]

z.monkey,

Have you considered driving your coil directly as a part of a oscillator? You can use your thin winding as a trigger coil
and your thick winding as a power coil. The attached circuit describes that. The bonus of such a solution is less loss
than an external driving circuit and also that you can charge a second battery from the back emf spikes. The resistor
value may need to be changed in your configuration. Higher value on the resistor gives you less base bias and less
power in the coil. If the transistor (of your choice) heats up then increase the resistor value. Another factor to consider
is that your coil will oscillate at the lowest loss possible. If your power coil has a very low resistance and inductance
then it may be needed to put more power transistors in parallel. Also use a big heat sink.

Just a thought.....

Regards,
Groundloop.