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this pyramid should produce electricity. (thomas trawoger's pyramid explaned.)

Started by nitinnun, July 16, 2008, 04:57:47 AM

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amigo

FFS, you two are stuck in the later part of the 20th Century, the "dogmatic" years as I call them. :D

The last thing missing is someone mentioning Quantum Physics...and you'll be on your own from then on. :P

Why don't you just go ahead and read that link I posted about Reichenbach? It might be an eye opener into the qualitative experience (the world of subtle forces) giving you a totally different perspective on things around you.

Koen1

Quote from: nitinnun on January 08, 2009, 02:05:49 PM
koen1.

why is it that your brain can find so many words to type,
yet cannot make any of them constructive ?
Probably for the same reason that you can also produce lots of text
without really saying anything solid.
Why is it that you can whine about me not posting things that you
deem constructive, but when I simply point out well known facts
that do not seem to accord with your statements, instead of
admitting that your stements do indeed not appear to accord
with those facts, you feel the need to act as if I am somehow
attacking you?
You could instead have shown how those facts are not
in conflict with your statements or at least have tried to
explain how they're not in your mind.
But you don't.
Why?

Quoteare you aware that most of your words hold no research value what so ever?
or value of "any" kind ?
No, that's not true. Sure, there's little "research value", since I'm simply stating
empirically proven facts which have already been verified and they don't
really need much "research" anymore.
But then tell me, what "value" do your statements have when they are not
in accordance with empirically proven facts?
How is it that statements of yours that are in conflict with scientific fact
hold more value than my pointing out of those facts?


Quotehere i am, exploring the depths.
of mysteries unknown
Are you now? I only see you post a lot of suggestive statements,
many of which appear not to accord with established knowledge.
Mysteries unknown? The relation between electricity and magnetism?
Hardly.
Sure, in the bigger picture our current models are not complete
untill we incorporate spacetime into our models to get a proper
multidimensional model which we can work with.
But the things I pointed out, the fact that a static magnetic field
itself does not induce any electron flow, nor does a static
electric field produce magnetism, those are known facts.
They may not fit into your mental model the way you like it,
that doesn't make them less true.


Quotethere you are, attacking my air supply with a hatchet.
convicted to the doctrine of the mundane.
Ah, so that's it, is it?
Everything in established science is false, is that it?
I should convert to new age quasi scientific thought before
I am allowed to reply to your posts? lol

Quoteby the way, koen1
congradulations for being the first user to give me a negative karmic vote.
A what?
Quoteit was heavily symbolic of your normal activities.
Sure. You know nothing of me and deny known facts, so you must be right.

Quoteto condemn others.
Lol :D Says the guy who just accused me of "not being constructive"
and "whose words hold nu research value".
That's not condemning people, I suppose?

You appear to have a double standard, in that you yourself are apparently
allowed to condemn people and to post unsupported or even false
statements, but when others do it they are evil?
That's not very new age of you. ;)

@Amigo: you do realise that Reichenbach and Quantum Physics are
two totally different sides of the coin? Reichenbach is in the corner
of Orgone, parapsychology, "Life Force", new age. QM is about
quantitative, exact, measurable and empirical physics.
I know many new age authors like imply there is an overlap
between the two, but there really isn't.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's impossible for "subtle forces"
or as I like to put it "multidimensional quantumphysics" to produce
the effects seen in some "subtle force" experiments,
but I do think that it should be studied from the angle of empirical
experiment and quantumphysics, and not from the angle of para-
psychology, "feeling" and "seeing" the "subtle energy fields",
and certainly not by dismissing known facts. If we can come up
with a model that can properly explain and predict such "subtle
energy" effects, I believe it must be based on science and
not on loose new age interpretations of physics.

In any case, we are free people in a free forum who freely
exchange ideas, and everyone has a right to believe what
they believe. And everyone has a right to doubt his neighbours
beliefs. That's all fine. And fora exist to discuss these differences
of opinion, otherwise what's the point of a forum?


nitinnun


your second post, was as meaningless as your first post.


why are you even here?
if you want to attack people who type things that you don't like,
than myspace has plenty of that.

amigo

Quote from: Koen1 on January 09, 2009, 07:41:53 AM
@Amigo: you do realise that Reichenbach and Quantum Physics are
two totally different sides of the coin? Reichenbach is in the corner
of Orgone, parapsychology, "Life Force", new age. QM is about
quantitative, exact, measurable and empirical physics.
I know many new age authors like imply there is an overlap
between the two, but there really isn't.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's impossible for "subtle forces"
or as I like to put it "multidimensional quantumphysics" to produce
the effects seen in some "subtle force" experiments,
but I do think that it should be studied from the angle of empirical
experiment and quantumphysics, and not from the angle of para-
psychology, "feeling" and "seeing" the "subtle energy fields",
and certainly not by dismissing known facts. If we can come up
with a model that can properly explain and predict such "subtle
energy" effects, I believe it must be based on science and
not on loose new age interpretations of physics.

In any case, we are free people in a free forum who freely
exchange ideas, and everyone has a right to believe what
they believe. And everyone has a right to doubt his neighbours
beliefs. That's all fine. And fora exist to discuss these differences
of opinion, otherwise what's the point of a forum?

That was my exact point...that they were like day and night.

Reichenbach spent decades on his research, meticulously documenting every step of the way and ensuring a true scientific process is adhered to, which cannot be said for most scientists in the later part of 20th Century who are the preachers of the scientific dogma.

My sentence about Quantum Physics was that if one of you brings it into this conversation and starts tossing that bullshit around, I'm leaving this thread because Quantum mumbo-jumbo is the biggest steaming pile of shite, in my humble opinion of course, but I don't have to put up with it either. ;)

spiralout

what's up with this thread? out of ideas? :) 


I went through the sketches that were posted here a few times and although i cant say that I fully understands the behavior of the energy inside the pyramid, it seems to me that the pyramid functions as a sort of "geometrical cloud" , building positive charge on the top and negative on the bottom. the only thing left for us to do is to find the most efficient way to collect those charges. now, i know that i'm stating the obvious here, but i thought i might as well remind u what this thread is all about... ;)   
one idea that kept coming up while I was contemplating the antenna issue, was to use a sphere as the peak antenna and as my search continued, i came across an impressive device (at least on paper) that seems to have been designed to be housed in a pyramid. this device by peter markovich is a ZPE converter by it's own accord, but I believe it could be greatly enhanced by the focusing qualities of the pyramid.

http://www.rexresearch.com/markovic/atree.htm

i'll be glad for constructive comments and will be posting when construction is on it's way.