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Overunity Machines Forum



Selfrunning Waterpump-generator device runs 60 Watts lamp...

Started by hartiberlin, July 16, 2008, 03:09:31 PM

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Xaero_Vincent

The device 6x6 is selling is obviously fake.

Ignoring my belief that the original, self-running water machine was a fake, without the generator it could only work when the pump is plugged in. As soon as its disconnected the pump shuts off and the water stops flowing to the water wheel. LOL. I would of given 6x6 the benefit of the doubt if he were offering a incomplete device; however he mentions "water hammer" as the operating principle, implying that the device works in its present configuration, without a generator.

If the generator was somehow providing overunity, utilizing the excess power directly to run an electric motor is far more efficient then powering a water pump that spins an extremely inefficient mechanical water wheel.

666666

If you are referring to me as 6X6 then here is my answer. James Hardy says in his own words that "his" invention will not work by hooking up a motor to his generator, so the working principle has to be something else. What I offered for sale was the paddle wheel portion of The James hardy setup. What I showed was what was for sale. Not including the generator, which is another project. This was not offered as a complete device or complete replication.
   If you watched video, you must have not noticed THE WATER BUBBLES APPEARING, JUST WHEN THE WHEEL ACCELERATED. THE WATER BECAME MILKY BECAUSE AIR BUBBLES WERE INTRODUCED AT THE INLET.
  STUDY SCHAUBERG, CLEM, GRIGS HYDROSONIC PUMP AND OTHERS THAT USED WATER HAMMER OR CAVITATION TO PRODUCE OVERUNITY.
   This is not the same unit as James Hardy built. Note that I cupped the Large washers which James attempted to do but his results were not the same as mine. All other parts were the same as what he used except my container which was professionally made by a factory.
    When you see the costs of what this thing cost to make and add the price of a generator, it will become obvious that a solar panel if much cheaper, "dollar per watt". Plus the fact that the solar panel doesn't burn up. Also you are right: THERE IS NO RELIABLE VERIFICATION THAT THIS EVEN WORKS.

lanblan4

Back in February I went over to Mr. Hardy's house for a demonstration. The setup he's using seems to work well. I asked him many questions and one was why not use an electric motor. I saw 2 or 3 motors in his garage and he explained to me that he went down that route and the motors always overheated. He said to me that the force it takes to turn the generator is greater than the motor can put out. Hence, the motors overheated. He said that's why he went to the water pump. The force from the water was what he needed and there was then no overheating. He modified his water wheel and it looked like he had tripled his paddles. There was also a box in between the output from the generator to the receptacles that did not show in the video. He did not say what the box was. I can assure you that I witnessed his machine running and I looked carefully for any wires or any underground connections and I saw nothing. I did get a close look at his generator - he had the cover off the back of it and I could see he had done a lot of work to it, but he would not explain the work that he has done to it. 

Xaero_Vincent

lanblan4,

So the secret then is with the generator and has nothing to do with water? He could of just bought a more powerful passive cooled motor to spin the generator. In theory the excess power produced by the overunity generator could just power the motor spinning it. Neither the water pump or the paddle wheels are mechanically efficient and in this case rather dangerous for water to come in contact with electricity. It would of probably been cheaper than spending it on a tub, $300 water pump, etc.

I also found  how the 60 watt lamp suddenly shut off rather than dim kind of strange. Did you notice that when he performed the demonstration?

Xaero_Vincent

6x6,

I'm not really familiar with water hammer except that it can occur when the inertia of moving water is suddenly halted and back pressure builds?

Perhaps an overunity device was designed from it but I don't see how this device can produce water hammer. If the operating principle was that then by your account the manufactured water pump itself would be the overunity device.