Selfrunning Waterpump-generator device runs 60 Watts lamp...

[mbramble]

Finding a pump is easy enough, finding a generator without a motor attached to it seems harder...that is, they are interchangeable in name, and so if looking on Ebay using 'generator', you get nothing but gas powered generators, but not the generator itself.

I've searched using 'generator head', etc but not really good results.

Anybody know the best way to find free-standing/unattached generators like the one in the video? To search for them?

Thanks,

Robert

Here's one -- http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45416.  If you have a Harbor Freight store near you you can go in and check it out.  I have seen it on sale for $219 and if you happen to have one of their 15% discount coupons at the time then that's a pretty good price.  You would be hard pressed to find a commercial gas powered generator with these specs for under $1000-1200 US.  I have almost bought this unit several times when it was on sale but don't have anything to drive it with (says it needs a 20HP motor).  Always looking for backup power here on the U.S. Gulf Coast

[JDHardy54]

Khabe and Spinner,
please stop harrassing James,
otherwise I will ban you.

James , any news on your machine ?
When will you have another video online ?

Many thanks.

It's nice to hear from you - there has been a lot going on since I talked to you last.  I've been getting plenty of emails from all over the world - many people want to be a part of this and offer help.  We have finished the winding of the generator with different wire and other changes to the generator as well.  We ran tests and we did not get enough watts for the amount of horsepower needed to switch over to generator power.  I documented every minute that we spent on the rewinding with the new gauge wire.  Right now we are going back to the set up initially used.  Based on the time it took us to do the work on the new winding we now know how long it takes to do.  So the new video will be available by the first of October.  When we are back to the old set up I will film it in the middle of the parking lot for the first demonstration.  For the second demonstration I will have the machine formally documented by two gentlemen who are relatively close to where I live who I have been in touch with by email and phone throughout this whole process - Jim Dunn and Ted Loder.  If anyone wishes to google them you will see their qualifications are stellar.  If anyone would like to talk to them, they are well aware of what is happening.  I will post their documentation for the disbelievers.  Additionally,  I need their documentation to resubmit the update on my patent application.   I've noticed a lot of people have been looking at the pump and the generator that I am using so they may, perhaps, build one on their own.  Some friendly advice - be aware of the enormous amount of work that is required on the generator.  We have spent hundreds of hours rebuilding the generator.  If you buy the this model generator, make sure you have some professional help because of all the changes that are needed.  I'll be posting the new video on YouTube around the first of October.

James

[ZathEros]

JDHardy,
I have been diggin around and found this gentleman who make custom turgo runners as well as sells
loose turgo buckets to build your own wheels. They just might help you squeeze out a little more precious power from your pump. Affordably priced too-

Link to custom Turgo runners and components.
http://hydro-gen.bizhosting.com/

Keep the faith, don't let doubting smacktards get you down!
Zatheros

[Thaelin]

Hi Hydro:
   Have you considered using  an induction electric motor?  All you need is a 23uf +- across the phase and
then turn it up about 50 rpm over rated speed and you will have a generator. Self excites and bingo you have
power. Enough to power the pump, well not known on my end. Then there is the high speed gen heads for
wind power systems. Its out there.

thaelin

I have tried searching for "generator head". Here are a few results.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_6970_36+182379
or here
http://www.electricpowergenerator.com/generatorheadsets.html

It may be just cheaper just to buy a gas generator and remove the gas engine.

[Artist_Guy]

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James

Greetings.

Point taken as to the generator winding. However...

I don't see why you must rebuild the generator unless it is to optimize the amps and volts to the RPM's you get via the water jet, as it likely is designed to be going at a lot higher RPM in its native application via some gas engine?

That would make sense.

I am of 2 minds of this now, but maybe I am missing a fundamental.

1. It is neat if this works. (my original mind)
2. Currently, I am thinking that even if it works, it seems that it would require massive scaling up to be practical for any real energy production and commercial application. There's just not a whole lot of practicality in having 10 of these things going so I can light up my house at night.

3. Ok, Three. I guess this is a Close Encounter of the Third Mind : I suppose if it does work, the main value is in the proof that it does, and in showing that, it's worth more energy than it ever will produce. Because it will cause a ruckus in the explaining of how it can. Not at all bad.

Now if you get it running itself again, and lighting up 6 sixty watt bulbs too, that's worth taking camping. Though one could use LED's and go for a lot of light that way too.

I wish you the best of luck and success, and please, do not fix what is not broken. Go back to your original working approach (down to the number of paddles on the wheel), get it working again, then do as was suggested, replicate that, and do the experimentation and optimizing on the duplicate. Whenever I write an algorithm, and get it working, I save the working, then optimize a copy. Sometimes there's no going back.

Thanks for those suggesting various avenues of generator finding.

Robert