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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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ResinRat2

One more minor detail...I am leaving for a two week vacation in two days. I will begin testing on my return.

Sorry, but I just wanted to show everyone that it is very close to finished.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

loosecannon

very cool RR!

i really like your design!

how simple and effective.

have a great and safe trip.
later,
LC

mscoffman

ResinRat;

What you need to switch your recycling current is called a "latching relay".  See Wikipedia.
A latching relay's coil conducts current only during the brief instant of relay switching and
does not have any power draw requirement most of the time. It would still need a simple
timer but the timer itself could run at an arbitrarily low power.

Having this timer process be "self powered" may be a product requirement and great for
"it runs itself!" demos, but only "isolation" is required for valid energy balance science
as long as you know what you are doing. In other words as long as the system is isolated
from external power, external powers supplies can be used to power auxillary instrumentation.

You actually could use a chemical process control computer built out of an old PC computer
very inexpensively, but someone understanding digital logic circuit design (the kind of thing
where they teach people to build robots in college) would be required to help you set it up.
Again, you wouldn't want to ship product with a process control computer attached but it
would help you to optimize the control laws for a prototype and then design a custom
controller for the final unit. You are really missing out on *a lot* by not having one...a lot of
the fun too. You may want to compensate by making some preconstructed standardized
protounits available for folks who are willing to tune and optimize the process for you.


:MarkSCoffman


 

ResinRat2

Hi Mark,
What you are describing is beyond my abilities, even to understand it. LOL!!

Wish you were close by, you could help me design it.

Here is a couple of pics with the electrodes all installed and the innerds of the cell assembled. I still need the glue to finish drying. It turned out ok, just like I wanted.

See you all in a couple of weeks.

Thanks for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

Ciercee

http://www.physorg.com/news98556080.html

Purdue researchers demonstrate their method for producing hydrogen by adding water to an alloy of aluminum and gallium. The hydrogen could then be used to run an internal combustion engine. The reaction was discovered by Jerry Woodall, center, a distinguished professor of electrical and computer engineering. Charles Allen, holding test tube, and Jeffrey Ziebarth, both doctoral students in the School of Electrical and Computer Engineering, are working with Woodall to perfect the process. (Purdue News Service photo/David Umberger

This is a good article. These guys are using aluminum and gallium. They suggest that high grade gallium is not necessary. So finding a source of inexpensive low grade gallium would be the one thing to consider.