Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[Tacmatricx]

Hi Dave,

I'm trying a totally different approach with only three electrodes. I have ONE zinc electrode and two tungsten electrodes.

The way that they are wired is as follows. The Zinc is the negative point for the supply voltage and is also directly connected to the H2 generation tungsten electrode via a copper wire. The second tungsten electrode is the positive point for the supply voltage.

My observations are that the zinc can be both used for generation and regeneration thus reducing the possibility of hydroxides forming and no need for any switching of wires or timing circuits. The basis of this is that a wire can be used for more than a single electron flow and electrons only flow from a negative on one supply to the positive of the same supply.

In my tests the fresh zinc electrode tarnishes at first and then turns a dark gray color while never producing H2 gas from reacting with the NaOH and is always covered in a thick layer of the larger sticky O2 bubbles, while the tungsten generation electrode is always producing gas and the regeneration electrode never produces any gas.

No more switching electrodes I have been playing with this approach for a few days now and am defiantly seeing re-plating of something.

Attached is a pic of the cell running (sorry about the quality). this is a 35mL cell with a 6" tungsten electrode. I can't remember the thickness of the tungsten but it's about the size of a graphite center of a standard pencil. The zinc is spiraled around the two rods so that I can see what's going on. The white cloud is hydrogen gas production.

Thanks,

Chris

[Tacmatricx]

Hi Dave,

I disconnected the supply voltage, set it to supply 0.840V and reconnected it. The cell voltage is currently at 0.608V and is trickle charging up to that setting from the 0.400V It was set to earlier.

Will let you know how it goes!

Thanks again for documenting the procedure and results, I am doing the same.

Will be testing either carbon or sulfur next once this one works out... tungsten is just too expensive!

Chris

[ResinRat2]

That's interesting, because I tried this approach last year using a AA battery. I stopped doing it because the battery started to get HOT!

Now the AA battery was 1.5 volts, so maybe the voltage was just too high and there was feedback(?) to the battery that caused it to heat up. Maybe your lower voltage will work better?

I was using a battery, no variable resistor to control the output, so maybe (MAYBE) this will work better.

NICE!!!

See if you get any overheating somewhere. (wires, etc.)

[Tacmatricx]

Hi Dave,

I have a diode before the variable resistor on the power supply... it cannot reverse feed. If I turn the resistor to the lowest setting... it grounds the regeneration tungsten rod to the zinc rod allowing me to make both rods generation rods.

It has been running constantly for about five days now and is cool to the touch. If you used a rechargeable AA battery or an AA battery and a diode it probably wouldn't have gotten hot as a reverse voltage would be blocked by the diode or recharged the battery? non rechargeable batteries get hot when you try to recharge them. A diode has a voltage drop depending on the type but is generally in the 0.7V (silicon) or 0.2V (germanium) region, stringing them together may get you the voltage you need?

Still getting good production and will let you know what it all looks like tonight.

Cheers,

Chris

[ResinRat2]

See what a little electronics knowledge can do.

I was using a normal AA, not rechargeable battery, so right there you did much better than I. There was no way for me to know that.

This is how I originally wanted to set it up, but again, it was my lack of knowledge that did me in. I abandoned this approach and went for the switching idea. This setup is the best, if it works. As long as the voltage is high enough to properly regenerate the zinc and avoid the formation of zincates then you should be in business.

Put it in a reactor that separates the oxygen and hydrogen and run the hydrogen through a fuel cell to power the regeneration and you will show overunity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT is THE dream setup. A closed, looped system that regenerates the zinc, produces hydrogen, and only uses up water!!!

YOU can do this Chris. Yes you can!! Fantastic to see if it works.